[NL20-NL50] [NL50] JJ 4b pot

    • ains21
      Joined: 04.06.2011 Posts: 303

      Villain is 19/16/5.4 reg (4k hands) who never gets too tricky post flop and plays fairly ABC.

      Fold to 3-bet: 48
      Fold to 3-bet (CO vs. BU): 44 (9)
      4-bet: 11
      4-bet (CO vs. BU): 34 (8)
      C-bet 3-bet pot: 67
      AggFq: 45/45/26

      Some sample size issues here I think. Hero perceived as 3-betting super wide in this spot.

      What you think about pre-flop? I 3b here since he doesn't fold often, and we have position etc. Do you think we should 5b jam here just because he 4b/folds super often and we're sure that he's calling off AK/possibly AQs anyway?

      As played, I decide to flat (now I think this is a mistake) since he has so much junk and to get some value post-flop. Problem is I suppose that his KTo or whatever gets handed some equity when we just flat like this.

      What do you make of his sizing on the turn? To me it looks so much like value. Thanks!

      Party, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $50 (100 bb)
      CO: $63.24 (126.5 bb)
      MP: $107.67 (215.3 bb)
      UTG: $88.13 (176.3 bb)
      SB: $87.34 (174.7 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $175.19 (350.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
      2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, CO raises to $11, Hero calls $6.50

      Flop: ($22.75) Q 8 2 (2 players)
      CO bets $10.81, Hero calls $10.81

      Turn: ($44.37) 3 (2 players)
      CO bets $12, Hero ???
  • 1 reply
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694

      A few other stats you didn't include
      -Open raise % in CO (I suspect it's around 22% from a 19/16 guy)
      -Fold to 5bet % in CO (you won't have it unless you are using PT4/HM2)
      -4bet range in CO % (4bet range is much more useful than 4bet %).

      Anyway I think if you are aggro I think you should definitely 3bet this for value. Vs a wide 4bet range, we have a few options.
      -min5betting to $18 or $19 and calling it off (good option given stack depth, we are not committing ourselves)
      -jamming immediately (would be more ideal if we had <110 bb)
      -flatting (I think JJ is strong but vulnerable so I don't like this option so much).

      You can also establish some sort of min 5bet range here to force him to 6b wider, or flat the 5b with weak hands since he is being offered good odds.

      As played, I don't mind calling once, turn is a close spot. There is some huge disparity between his Turn and River betting range so I think you can call Turn again and fold River, though IMO people don't 2barrel for such a size that often as a bluff in 4b pots.