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[NL20-NL50] NL 25 ATs

    • elchipriota
      elchipriota
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.06.2012 Posts: 438
      Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2158271
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      BTN: $9.88 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 18, 3B: 50, AF: 0,0, Hands: 11
      SB: $16.21 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 3,5, Hands: 39
      Hero (BB): $71.44 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 2,8, Hands: 132961
      UTG: $22.69 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 12, 3B: 13, AF: 1,5, Hands: 67
      MP: $17.65 - VPIP: 55, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1,0, Hands: 11
      CO: $52.37 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 2,0, Hands: 39

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with T :club: A :club:
      4 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $1.90, SB calls $1.15

      Flop: ($3.80) J :club: 8 :diamond: 9 :spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.00, SB raises to $7.25, Hero folds

      Gave villain this range on equilab: QQ-77,ATs+,KJs-KTs,QTs+,JTs,98s,AQo-A9o,KTo+,QTo+,T8o+,98o (gave him QQ as he seems passive so I included some overpairs).

      I get 40% on a shove. Decided to fold in this spot.

      What do you think?
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      Hey,

      I would exclude 77 from villain's raising range here, probably Jx hands as well, same goes for middle pairs. I think his raising range has less mediocre showdown value hands that raise to induce a shove and more hands that have you crushed or have decent equity so my option here would be to fold. Notice his sizing is also very big for a 3bet pot, you are left with close to no folding equity.

      Given stack sizes you can consider check/shoving flop with a range that includes ATs, overpairs, maybe JTs type hand if you 3bet it as well (or T9s, pair + redraw basically). That means you get some money from his air when he bet/folds and you get it all in with good equity against his made hands as well, you avoid having little equity and a small pot when you win against his air (he folds vs cbet instead of vs raise with him puttin more money into the pot).
    • double2
      double2
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.11.2008 Posts: 14,642
      We can't check/shove Manu, cause we are IP.

      And I don't think the 3bet pre flop is that great, I would prefer calling.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      Originally posted by double2
      We can't check/shove Manu, cause we are IP.

      And I don't think the 3bet pre flop is that great, I would prefer calling.
      I'm used to saying check/shove or check/call even for calling IP. It became a habit from blah234 videos which I try to not use on forum but it sometimes still slips.

      3betting preflop is very debatable, I think it is +EV, we have position vs SB and ATs, we can 3bet profitably here imo but I don't think it's necessarily the highest EV play. I usually call here but I don't disagree with 3betting.