[NL20-NL50] KK ipo deep vs 3 bet nl 25 sh

    • dzikson999
      dzikson999
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.08.2010 Posts: 532
      PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BB: $53.48
      UTG: $25.00
      Hero (BTN): $40.47
      SB: $9.00

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has K:heart: K:spade:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, BB raises to $2.25, Hero calls $1.63

      Flop: ($4.60, 2 players) 3:heart: 4:heart: 9:heart:
      BB checks, Hero bets $2.75, BB calls $2.75

      Turn: ($10.10, 2 players) 4:spade:
      BB checks, Hero bets $7.25, BB calls $7.25

      River: ($24.60, 2 players) Q:club:
      BB checks, Hero bets $9.00, BB raises to $41.23 and is all-in, fold

      Villain is 24/19 player Wtsd 22% W&sd 71%
      3 bet 4.8%,ag F 1.1, afq 34%- 460 hands

      I think i made huge mistake by betting river but i tought that he might put me on busted A h draw and maybe call with JJ or AQs so i made thin velue bet , but Q is acctualy very bad card for me and i think i should check behind . should i bet turn bigger maybe even pot or slight over bet that c/ b river hmmm??? I see it like this
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com
      Board: 9h4h3h4sQc
      Equity Win Tie
      BU 46.30% 44.44% 1.85% { KhKs }
      BB 53.70% 51.85% 1.85% { 99+, AhQh, AhJh }
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,908
      Hey,

      In order to decide river here you can just look at his WTSD. It's 22% which is a bit below average so he is unlikely to call with many bluffcatchers, he will usually fold them. Now let's look at our hand strength: flushes, trips, FH are better value hands than our overpair so we kind of have a thin value hand/bluffcatcher type hand. Our opponent folds his own bluffcatchers so when we bet here we can't get that much value so we either check back or try to induce him to put money into the pot by creating a weaker perceived range. The second option is difficult, very dependant on Hero's ability to read history and dynamic thus I think a standard play should be to check here. I don't see a river call either, I think he is never bluffing so all his value hands have us beat.

      What I do want to ask about is preflop. How come you just flat there?
    • dzikson999
      dzikson999
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.08.2010 Posts: 532
      Cause his 3 beting only 4.8 % it was even les in time that hand was played on my hud it was 3 % so i thought if i 4 bet deep he will shove only AA and fold rest ( dont know maybe call some QQ,JJ,Ak) but i thought that flating be more ev + for me .Whats your thoughts about that ??
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,908
      Originally posted by dzikson999
      Cause his 3 beting only 4.8 % it was even les in time that hand was played on my hud it was 3 % so i thought if i 4 bet deep he will shove only AA and fold rest ( dont know maybe call some QQ,JJ,Ak) but i thought that flating be more ev + for me .Whats your thoughts about that ??
      If at the time you played his 3bet was even smaller, then calling is fine. When deeper however, keep in mind people can flat your 4bets like they do your 3bets when just 100bb deep so you get called by worse quite often, making KK a good value 4bet. That said, they need to 3bet a wide enough range and 3% or so is too tight, 5% gets close to being enough, esp given that it's BU against BB when 3betting ranges will be wider.