[NL20-NL50] NL20 3handed 55

    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
      Gold
      Joined: 04.01.2009 Posts: 5,071
      Prima, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
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      SB: $34.76 (173.8 bb)
      Hero (BB): $20 (100 bb)
      BTN: $32.92 (164.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 5
      BTN raises to $0.58, SB calls $0.48, Hero calls $0.38

      Flop: ($1.74) A K 4 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.75, 2 folds

      Results:
      $1.74 pot ($0.08 rake)
      Final Board: A K 4
      SB mucked and lost (-$0.58 net)
      Hero mucked 5 5 and lost (-$0.58 net)
      BTN mucked and won $1.66 ($1.08 net)


      BTN


      turn cbet 67


      SB: 68/42, fcbet 71 (7), 31h

      He has wide steal range, which can not necesarily be Ax or Kx. Fish and me folds well to cbets and this board looks scary.

      I am thinking - maybe I could call and rep strong range by this and he should not 2nd barrel even when his stat shows high turn cbet, because of my strong calling range.

      The once I see he is not barreling - bet and take it down. What do you think?
  • 4 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Speed,

      So what range do you put villain on for betting less than half pot here?

      That's the first step and then we can think about our line. I know you said he doesnt always have Ax or Kx but we have to be more specific. What hands can bet like this?
    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
      Gold
      Joined: 04.01.2009 Posts: 5,071
      He can of course have A x but in BTN steal range is wide and I think he cbes 100% of his preflop range which is 52%
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      Your playability is going to be very poor in general so folding is the best option. You are also assuming to be up against a 100% cbet range here which is not true when there is another player in the hand. Besides his cbet is 63%. While his cbet % should be higher on this AKXr board, I think the presence of the 3rd player reduces his real cbet % by a lot.

      Also against anyone who is remotely aggro, I think you are never going to be able to profitably get your 55 to showdown here. He is gonna fire multiple barrels with all his gutshots and backdoor flush draws and push you off your hand.

      Your range is also capped badly here, you cannot have AK/AA/KK here so you are going to get abused hard vs a good aggro player.

      Just a quick approximation

      Board: AcKd4h
      Equity Win Tie
      MP2 39.69% 39.57% 0.11% { 5d5h }
      MP3 60.31% 60.20% 0.11% { 33+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, A2o+, K5o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T7o+, 98o }

      Given this info, you are getting the right odds to call here vs that <50% pot bet. but you are not taking into account the fact that you still have to play the Turn and River, and also the fact that he is not betting 100% of his range here (I gave him a 50% opening range and assumed he cbets 100% here which is untrue).

      So your true equity here is going to be far less than 35% here, probably 30%+ and I think you are going to get bluffed off or value-betted off at least 30-50% of turns.
    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
      Gold
      Joined: 04.01.2009 Posts: 5,071
      I think this player is not so agro to bluff the turn if I call the flop. (I assumed you are talking about calling flop).

      Because he should be thinking that I reallu often have made hand like Ax and I am not folding turns. Plus his aggression stat on the turn is also low.