[NL20-NL50] NL50 SH - low two pair allin, limped pot

    • kesgab
      kesgab
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.05.2007 Posts: 217
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $50,00
      MP3:
      $11,40
      CO:
      $31,55
      BU:
      $22,45

      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 8:diamond: , 5:diamond:
      MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0,50, CO calls $0,50, BU calls $0,50, SB folds, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($2,25) A:heart: , 8:club: , 5:club: (4 players)
      Hero bets $2,00, MP3 folds, CO calls $2,00, BU raises to $6,00, Hero raises to $49,50 (All-In), CO folds, BU raises to $21,95 (All-In).

      Turn: ($75,70) 4:spade:
      River: ($75,70) 2:club:


      Final Pot: $75,70

      I thought BU most likely had A8 or A5, but i still thought i had to push there.
      I guess i was wrong:

      Board: Ah 8c 5c

      Wins Ties Equity
      30.95% 0.01% 30.96% ( 8d5d )
      69.04% 0.01% 69.04% ( AA(20),88,55,6c7c(50),Ac2c+(30),AK(60),A8,A5 )

      It needs 1 : 2.2 pot odds and i only have about 1.3 for the push and i don't think i have any fold equity. In addition CO can have a big hand too.

      Any thoughts? Is the range i give to BU right?
  • 6 replies
    • kukac26
      kukac26
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.11.2007 Posts: 126
      Reraise all-in with bottom two is a bit wild here. Might as well burn the money on a BBQ.

      Why did you do it? A reraise of 18$ would tell you the same...

      Even if you won this time, it can't last :)
    • Gonira
      Gonira
      Gold
      Joined: 27.02.2008 Posts: 5,247
      he might have any ace. i would do the same.
    • kesgab
      kesgab
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.05.2007 Posts: 217
      Originally posted by kukac26
      Reraise all-in with bottom two is a bit wild here. Might as well burn the money on a BBQ.

      Why did you do it? A reraise of 18$ would tell you the same...

      Even if you won this time, it can't last :)

      I agree, after my calculations, that i should have folded, but i am still interested to see the judge's opinion.

      I don't know what you mean on 'a reraise of 18$ would tell you the same'. Is it means a raise/fold? I think it's a push or fold situation because of their stack sizes.
      Or do you say that if i already decided to commit, than it's better to raise smaller, because bad players call that easier, and still commit themselves with worse hands?
    • Gonira
      Gonira
      Gold
      Joined: 27.02.2008 Posts: 5,247
      $18 = all in here. no way you could fold here, man. only with solid reads. you played it right. Ax in villains hand, most of the time.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Shoving is a littlebit extreme, but perfectly fine against middlestack.
    • kesgab
      kesgab
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.05.2007 Posts: 217
      And what about my equity calculations? Did i give villain too tight range than?

      Here is the range again i give him:
      AA - 20% of the time, cause he usually raise preflop
      88
      55
      7c6c - 50% of the time, because he would also call with it
      Ac2c+ - 30% of the time, because he would mostly call with it
      AK - 60% of the time, cause he would also call with it sometimes
      A8
      A5

      With this range, it's not even a close decision, we should fold.


      However, with the widest range he can have:
      any set, any two pair, any flush draw, any ace, any straight draw

      Board: Ah 8c 5c

      Wins Ties Equity
      61.00% 1.03% 62.03% ( 8d5d )
      36.94% 1.03% 37.97% ( AA,88,55,A8,A5,85,Ac2c+,Kc2c+Qc2c+,Jc2c+,Tc2c+,9c2c+,7c2c+,6c2c+,4c2c+,3c2c,A2+,76 )

      ..I am a big favourit.

      I am still not convinced, but at least i see it's a close one.

      Thanks Gonira and Kaitz for the replies.

      Best regards,
      kesgab