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[NL2-NL10] NL10 monsterdraw

    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $9.66 (96.6 bb)
      Hero (SB): $17.16 (171.6 bb)
      BB: $2.20 (22 bb)
      UTG: $19.46 (194.6 bb)
      MP: $28.89 (288.9 bb)
      CO: $10 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A J
      UTG raises to $0.35, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

      Flop: ($1.05) K 2 T (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.52, BB calls $0.52, UTG raises to $2.34, Hero raises to $16.81 and is all-in, BB calls $1.33 and is all-in, UTG calls $14.47

      Turn: ($36.52) J (3 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($36.52) 6 (3 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results:
      $36.52 pot ($1.82 rake)
      Final Board: K 2 T J 6
      Hero showed A J and lost (-$17.16 net)
      BB showed T Q and lost (-$2.20 net)
      UTG showed K Q and won $34.70 ($17.54 net)


      Should I have played passively?
  • 3 replies
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 7,020
      why do you donk?

      what do you expect him to raise with?
    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      I was thinking of getting it in on the flop. Is that a bad idea?
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 7,020
      short version: yes, it's a bad idea in the way you executed it.

      it won't ever be super goddamn awfully terrible since all your drawing outs are live and in worst case scenario (against a set) you'll still win about 1/3 of the time.
      however, that's almost definitely not optimal since when you actually get it in you'll nearly always have less than 50% equity.

      so, for your shove to be profitable, you'd need villain to raise/fold over your donk often enough and i don't think that is happening.
      you can only profit by playing draws aggressively if you can make villain fold.


      so well, how to play? this is a bit awkward given the player stacks.
      if there was a fully stacked fish in the hand, i would tend to check/call since have great implied odds and don't gain much by playing it aggressively, but here BB is short and can just randomly check/shove a lot of hands vs utg's cbet.

      as it is, it's probably best to just ignore BB and focus against utg.
      whether to check/raise the flop or not depends on how much you think can make utg fold. how often will he bet/fold a made hand?
      if he doesn't fold you should just play it passively. you have like 30% of the deck as your outs, and so you will get direct odds to call as long as he bets up to about ~3/4 pot.