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[NL20-NL50] NL25 SH: 88 overcall 15BB push? bluff flop?

    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,145
      Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
      LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

      UTG: $43.35
      MP: $7.10
      CO: $27.95
      BTN: $3.65
      SB: $36
      Kruppe (BB): $25

      Pre-Flop: 8:heart: 8:diamond: dealt to Kruppe (BB)
      3 folds, BTN raises to $3.65 and is All-In, SB calls $3.55, Kruppe calls $3.40

      Flop: ($10.95) 6:diamond: K:club: Q:spade: (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
      SB checks, Kruppe bets $5.50, SB folds

      Turn: ($10.95) 6:diamond: K:club: Q:spade: [ 4:spade: ] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

      River: ($10.95) 6:diamond: K:club: Q:spade: 4:spade: [ J:diamond: ] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)


      I think I should fold pre as I have low implied odds against the caller and 88 is too bad for a push. right?
      as played, check flop?
  • 3 replies
    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      Would fold preflop:

      reasons:
      - no odds to call for setvalue vs sb
      - pushing is not that good either: vs the shortstack range your most likely behind (66+, A9+ is his wide range?). And you've got no idea what SB will do, if he folds your still behind vs the SS player, and if he calls your up against AA/KK/QQ/AK --> no value in pushing.
    • kukac26
      kukac26
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.11.2007 Posts: 126
      Flop bet was wild. You're almost ceirtainly behind SB. Happens you weren't :)


      Pre-flop is tricky. The implied odds are so-so. You're getting 2:1 to call and SB has you covered, so if you hit you're getting paid (bit over 7:1). But then the SB has to hit too and we're into wishfull thinking.

      Without SB history it's a fold. In most cases it's a fold, anyway.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      If you thought that SB could call with worse hand that BU showed pf and 88 beats BU shoving range, then shove :)
      Another option would be call pf, but then you should check it down. You don´t have overpair, and SB could easily hold K or Q, which he won´t fold to your 1/2 potsize bet.