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[NL20-NL50] SH NL50 zoom QQ 3bet pot

    • dooleslovs
      dooleslovs
      Black
      Joined: 17.02.2011 Posts: 485
      PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (BTN): $78.04
      SB: $39.41 (VPIP: 4.55, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
      BB: $27.21 (VPIP: 16.09, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 92)
      UTG: $112.75 (VPIP: 24.59, PFR: 18.03, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 62)
      MP: $49.77 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
      CO: $22.46 (VPIP: 31.58, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 19)

      SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has Q:club: Q:heart:

      fold, MP raises to $1.50, fold, Hero raises to $4.50, fold, fold, MP calls $3.00

      Flop: ($9.75, 2 players) 4:heart: 7:heart: 8:heart:
      MP checks, Hero bets $5.50, MP raises to $11.00, Hero ??

      Vilian looks like tight fish after 32 hands, those min R usally are super strong, they ch/ push than semi blufing, so just give credit for the flush or set and give up right a way might be the best play w/o more info?
  • 5 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Hi.

      This would be a pretty ez fold with qq or aa w no heart.
      With a heart it changes things. Why dont u try some equity simulations and we will discuss them
    • pokerferrer
      pokerferrer
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.03.2008 Posts: 6,347
      I will never find fold here. If you are not ready to put whole stack with QQ on a such flop, why then 3bet? I think there is no way, we have to push.
    • dooleslovs
      dooleslovs
      Black
      Joined: 17.02.2011 Posts: 485
      I'll give him most optimistic range I could imagine:


      Board: 8:heart: 7:heart: 4:heart:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    50.62%  50.22%   0.40% { QhQc }
      MP3    49.38%  48.98%   0.40% { JJ-TT, 88-77, 44, 87s, 65s, AhKh, AhJh, KhJh, AhTh, KhTh, JhTh, Th9h, AdKh, AhKd, AhKs, AhKc, AsKh, AcKh, AdQh, AhQd, AhQs, AhQc, AsQh, AcQh }


      But by 3bet shoving OTF I vould isolate myself vs sets and made flushes some of the time against AK with one heart IMO. So maybe better to call and reevulet turn?
    • dooleslovs
      dooleslovs
      Black
      Joined: 17.02.2011 Posts: 485
      did not press Advise the juge button.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Thats pretty optimistic to me. I think a passive player is way less likely to raise flop with jj/tt with or without the heart. We have Qh so thats not in his range. AhX should also be discounted. People are likeloer to cr larger or just checkpush directly w a one card nut fd.

      I think overall the range u gave him is way too wide. A 18/6 player is not opening many of those hands liek KTs and 44. He would often limp those.