[NL20-NL50] JJ vs 3bet IP

    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,580
      iPoker - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 87.34 BB (VPIP: 48.72, PFR: 40.87, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 123)
      UTG: 39.5 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 16.80, 3Bet Preflop: 8.51, Hands: 127)
      MP: 138.74 BB (VPIP: 25.89, PFR: 7.62, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 230)
      Hero (CO): 104 BB
      BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.35, PFR: 18.16, 3Bet Preflop: 9.43, Hands: 1,161)
      SB: 77.5 BB (VPIP: 24.51, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 11.22, Hands: 259)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:heart: J:diamond:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

      Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 6:spade: 3:spade: 9:club:
      SB bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

      Turn: (41 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:
      SB checks, Hero checks

      River: (41 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:
      SB bets 21 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

      Hero shows J:heart: J:diamond: (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 82%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
      SB shows T:club: T:heart: (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 18%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
      Hero wins 78.86 BB


      I like playing IP JJ rather than shoving and isolating mostly versus better or flipping.
      River call? Turn bet?
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      Hey,

      Wasn't your plan to just flat everything like 90% of the time here and not 4betting? Then flatting JJ qualifies as part of that ofc. :)

      Postflop, you played it really standard and it's probably correct. He is unlikely to have JJ beat but if you bet, he most likely folds air and smaller pairs. When he bets, he can vbet JJ, TT and also bluff hands like AK, AJ.. It's not very likely he checks KK+ on turn to vbet then on the river and induce lighter calls. :)
    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,580
      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Hey,

      Wasn't your plan to just flat everything like 90% of the time here and not 4betting? Then flatting JJ qualifies as part of that ofc. :)

      Postflop, you played it really standard and it's probably correct. He is unlikely to have JJ beat but if you bet, he most likely folds air and smaller pairs. When he bets, he can vbet JJ, TT and also bluff hands like AK, AJ.. It's not very likely he checks KK+ on turn to vbet then on the river and induce lighter calls. :)
      Thats my plan versus aggro reggs. But versus shortstackers, I go all in with JJ+, AK, because they rarely fold. And this guy is a fish, so I was not sure what is the best with JJ. This way I would probably stack him preflop, but won only half pot size, and if he would have QQ+ I would loose the whole stack.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      Well, he has 78bb so not very short, definitely fishy. JJ is probably a bit too light against him so calling IP will be certainly +EV. Your equity against his stacking off range should be good ofc but you are likely to generate just as much profit by calling against him. Yes, you win a stack vs TT very often here but you also lose very often vs QQ+ and flip with AK when you prob win more often IP vs AK than 50% of the time. I like your call, I think nobody can say you should definitely 4bet or call, it's up to you, both working very well imo. :)