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[NL20-NL50] NL50 QQ against unkown

    • double2
      Joined: 04.11.2008 Posts: 14,644
      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $50.03 (100.1 bb)
      BB: $30.75 (61.5 bb)
      UTG: $62.33 (124.7 bb)
      MP: $96.11 (192.2 bb)
      Hero (CO): $50 (100 bb)
      BTN: $23.48 (47 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
      2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, BTN folds, SB raises to $3.50, BB folds, Hero raises to $9.75, SB raises to $19.50, Hero raises to $50 and is all-in, SB calls $30.50

      Flop: ($100.50) 8 5 T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($100.50) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($100.50) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      $100.50 pot ($2 rake)
      Final Board: 8 5 T 7 5
      SB showed A A and won $98.50 ($48.50 net)
      Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$50 net)

      Unknown villain, probably fish.

      Do you see any other way to play this? I think calling the 3bet is a bit weak COvsSB, I hate min 5bets, they always look like AA, but recent evidence showed me otherwise.
  • 1 reply
    • EmanuelC16
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909

      Min5bets can sometimes be followed by a fold and the range still contains some QQ, AK, maybe JJ so although on average they are a bit stronger, I think they are not that much strong to 4bet and fold QQ. I think you lose more if you 4bet/fold it against min5bets than when you are wrong with your assumption and stack off against a stronger than average range.

      I have also seen people min5bet fold to that sizing and also commit with crappy hands like AJo, A7s, 77 so definitely don't fold.