[NL2-NL10] nl 2 rough spot with KK

    • Edukator99
      Edukator99
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      Joined: 18.07.2010 Posts: 240
      PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 56 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
      Hero (SB): 100 BB
      BB: 890 BB (VPIP: 18.55, PFR: 11.29, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 124)
      UTG: 191 BB (VPIP: 9.46, PFR: 1.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 321)
      UTG+1: 89 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
      UTG+2: 127 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
      MP: 136.5 BB (VPIP: 18.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 64)
      MP+1: 87 BB (VPIP: 15.56, PFR: 2.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
      CO: 162 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 10)

      Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:spade: K:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, MP calls 5.5 BB

      Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 3:diamond: A:spade: 4:heart:
      Hero bets 12 BB, MP raises to 29 BB, fold

      MP wins 41.5 BB

      I gotta think I'm up against an ace, a set or a straight on a raise here no? Or a maniac bluff...but the odds see slim.
  • 3 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Edukator,

      Preflop: Why are we 3-bettting SO small versus 3.5x MP raise and we are OOP? This 3-bet should be at least 11 BB if not 12-13 BB.

      Postflop: As played the flop cbet should be a bit smaller and I agree that we can't do much but fold.
    • Edukator99
      Edukator99
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      Joined: 18.07.2010 Posts: 240
      I think I thought he'd bet a standard 3BB raise...as I usually do 3x their bet.

      How would making the bet bigger really affect the hand though? I don't know much about bet sizing to be honest and I don't think most players to at this limit...I assume they mostly just see a small bet a big bet or not bet.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by Edukator99
      I think I thought he'd bet a standard 3BB raise...as I usually do 3x their bet.

      How would making the bet bigger really affect the hand though? I don't know much about bet sizing to be honest and I don't think most players to at this limit...I assume they mostly just see a small bet a big bet or not bet.
      Look at the price you are giving him to call you. You are giving him good odds to call with a ton of hands and on top of that you are losing value from your hand.

      The smaller you make it the less money you make (or have on the flop).

      It may not change much in this particular scenario but you can't be results oriented. It would change a lot in hundreds of other scenarios.