[NL20-NL50] JTs OESD all in

    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
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      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $29.34
      CO:
      $44.35
      BU (Hero):
      $31.35
      SB:
      $26.02
      BB:
      $46.69
      MP2:
      $25.00


      Preflop: Hero is BU with J, T.
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.00, 2 folds, CO raises to $4.75, Hero calls $2.75.

      Flop: ($9.85) 9, Q, 6 (2 players)
      CO bets $6.50, Hero raises to $26.60(All-In), CO folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $16.35.

      122 hands  vpip16 pfr18 fold to 3 bet 40   4BET60(5)   4BET range 15.2(5)          

      I am in position so I called 4 bet.
      and I have 40 % equity on the flop against even AA,KK,QQ,AK
      so I went all in, just call was better? too aggressive ?
  • 6 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Daisuke,

      Preflop: I think that calling a 4-bet here even though we have position will put us in many problematic spots postflop. This should be a fold. Or what was your plan? Try to steal the pot from him later? If so, how?

      Postflop: I think that your shove is fine despite not repping a lot of value. It's clear that he never folds KK/AA but he may fold hands like TT/JJ, 9x, AK, etc which are all better than ours.
    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
      thank you,I thought I could play since I was in position ,so fold was better,right?
    • pokerferrer
      pokerferrer
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      Joined: 05.03.2008 Posts: 6,347
      Yeah, fold. If he is tight, we are dominated. If he is lose and polarised we will not win much, but sometimes will lose vs higher flushes. :)
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by daisuke3823
      thank you,I thought I could play since I was in position ,so fold was better,right?
      Position losses value when stack to pot ratio's go down. You have to think about how you will play postflop?

      You will have a $10 pot with just about ~$25 behind. Can you expect to steal pots away from him? What happens if you flop a T or J?
    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
      it was uncertain if I could steal.
      I thought he would go broke if he has monster hands.
      this hand doesnt have showdown value and I have fold equity on the flop,and thought I could fold out AK by pushing .
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by daisuke3823
      it was uncertain if I could steal.
      I thought he would go broke if he has monster hands.
      this hand doesnt have showdown value and I have fold equity on the flop,and thought I could fold out AK by pushing .
      Yeh, without having a plan for postlfop just fold preflop or you will get yourself in terrible spots.

      But yes AK and even lower pairs can fold there so I agree with your postflop play.