[NL20-NL50] nl 50 j8s fr

    • sandraardnas
      sandraardnas
      Gold
      Joined: 11.01.2012 Posts: 2,017
      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $108.26 (216.5 bb)
      Hero (BB): $50.14 (100.3 bb)
      UTG: $41.14 (82.3 bb)
      MP: $28.66 (57.3 bb)
      CO: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
      BTN: $75.75 (151.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J 8
      UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, BTN calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero checks

      Flop: ($2) J 9 3 (4 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, MP calls $1.25, 2 folds

      Turn: ($4.50) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $3, MP calls $3

      River: ($10.50) 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.25, MP calls $3.25

      Results:
      $17 pot ($0.76 rake)
      Final Board: J 9 3 7 3
      Hero showed J 8 and lost (-$8 net)
      MP showed Q J and won $16.24 ($8.24 net)



      Hello,
      stats are for first limper, second is reg and sb is 37/12 so I think he has any two when completed 3 in 3way.
      On flop I made bet for value against two fishes and expecting reg to fold most of the time and call ocasionally with something like A5 of clubs (or raise with 33).
      First fish calls and I bet again because I'm ahead about 60% of the time against his calling range (if he limp 36%).
      On the river I'm probably slightly ahead of hi calling range-it depends how often is he raising nutses before river and on how wide is his range preflop. So I made little value bet to get call by every pair that he drag to the river, knowing he wont raise as a bluff cause of his passivity.
      I wonder what to do if I have only lets say 47% equity vs his calling range on river. Should I check/fold due to his passivity? Or maybe still bet cause he can have a little bit wider range to make bet profitable and to not have a problem when he bets after I check?
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi,

      I think it's fine to bet twice, but on the river there is no longer any value in a bet. I much prefer c/c when our kicker isn't that strong. We can bluff catch vs all the busted draws.
    • sandraardnas
      sandraardnas
      Gold
      Joined: 11.01.2012 Posts: 2,017
      I understand check/call is a good option, cause he bets IP good portion of time, but I dont understand why there is no value in bet, unless you mean that there is more value in check/call than bet.
      If he calls my bet on the river with hands like 69, Q9, 88, 67 then I have about 55% equity vs his calling range.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Well you are assuming he always calls with 9X but that may/may not be the case.

      Of course you need to compare the value of inducing from busted draws vs the thin value you can gain by betting. IMO 55% favourite isn't that great, we aren't exactly making that much, I think value of c/c is higher IMO.

      Maybe if you are 60% favourite or more vs a calling range then I would prefer betting myself.