[NL2-NL10] Nl2-55

    • Breezand
      Breezand
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.02.2011 Posts: 24
      PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.35, PFR: 11.57, 3Bet Preflop: 7.81, Hands: 218)
      Hero (UTG): 128.5 BB
      UTG+1: 104 BB (VPIP: 27.68, PFR: 5.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 177)
      MP: 45.5 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
      CO: 108.5 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
      BTN: 44 BB (VPIP: 29.14, PFR: 7.95, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 153)
      SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.36, PFR: 8.18, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 221)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5:heart: 5:spade:

      Hero calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB checks

      Flop: (2.5 BB, 2 players) T:club: 5:diamond: 7:heart:
      BB bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

      Turn: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 4:club:
      BB bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 13.5 BB, fold

      Hero wins 14 BB
  • 4 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Breezand,

      Preflop: I would not recommend open limping. IF others limped we can limp behind but if we are first in we should raise or fold.

      Postflop: As played we should raise the flop and not slowplay. We need to build the pot up.
    • Breezand
      Breezand
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.02.2011 Posts: 24
      Hi BogdanPS, thanks for all the feedback, it as been extremely helpful.

      Would you be able to explain why I shouldn't be open limping if no-one has limped in behind? Isn't the value in pocket 5's set-mining, rather than either folding or raising? I'm not sure I understand why we should either fold or raise in this situation.

      Just to clarify, you suggest to raise on the flop to get the money in. On this dry board as we don't really need to bet for protection, aren't we scaring away weaker hands such as Tx or middle pairs?


      (sorry if these questions seem stupid, i'm pretty new to understanding post-flop :) )
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by Breezand
      Hi BogdanPS, thanks for all the feedback, it as been extremely helpful.

      Would you be able to explain why I shouldn't be open limping if no-one has limped in behind? Isn't the value in pocket 5's set-mining, rather than either folding or raising? I'm not sure I understand why we should either fold or raise in this situation.

      Just to clarify, you suggest to raise on the flop to get the money in. On this dry board as we don't really need to bet for protection, aren't we scaring away weaker hands such as Tx or middle pairs?


      (sorry if these questions seem stupid, i'm pretty new to understanding post-flop :) )
      There are a few reasons as to why we do not want to open limp:
      1) Our hand appears weak (rightfully so)
      2) We are opening ourselves up to get raised by opponents
      3) We will have a hard time to build a pot when we hit
      4) We generally only win if we hit, which is rare
      5) We give BB a chance to see a flop with ALL of his range

      Reasons for opening:
      1) We gain initiative and thus can win the pot without hitting - either preflop or postflop with a cbet
      2) We don't telegraph the strength of our hand
      3) The pot would be larger so when we hit it will be easier to get more money
      4) We may be able to isolate weaker opponents



      As far as raising the flop: since this is a limped pot it will be hard to get a lot of money in there without raising. Generally speaking Tx, at these limits, will not fold right away. The line of call flop and raise turn is usually stronger so regular looking players will fold more there.

      Also, if you wait till the turn it will be hard to raise and get all the money in on the river.

      If we raise flop we can bet big on turn and most likely shove river.

      And don't worry about the questions, you can ask as many as you want/need to :)
    • Breezand
      Breezand
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.02.2011 Posts: 24
      Thanks, this really cleared up a few things for me.