[NL2-NL10] [SH] Low PP vs shortie

    • GreenPiece
      GreenPiece
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      PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players

      Opponent unknown

      BTN: $1.23
      SB: $4.47
      Hero (BB): $5.07
      UTG: $6.94
      MP: $1.64
      CO: $6.79

      SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

      Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 5:heart: 5:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $5.07 and is all-in

      Assuming his calling range is Ax, PPs, mayhap smth like KQ, KJs, it's a break even decision considering rake. But if we have some fold equity, it's slightly +EV. What do you think?
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    • sausage646
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      I think, something like this:

      77+,A6s+,KTs+,QJs,JTs,T9s,A9o+,KTo+,QJo,JTo - 54.72%
      5c5s - 45.28%

      when you pick up a hand:
      1) 3bet -> leaves him place to bluff (3bet size ~0.25)
      2) 3bet -> makes our hand look weaker (3bet size ~0.25)
    • GreenPiece
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      But shove over minraise with small pocket gives the advantage of fold equity as opposed to possibility of call plus the playability of this hand OOP is really bad.
    • kymupa
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      Hello,

      Against an unknown I would just fold this hand here.
      We can't really call this since he only has 25bb, and there are better hands to 3bet bluff with. I don't like shoving here, since we can't really have a bluff range and we have to shove only value hands.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • GreenPiece
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      What hands will you go AI with vs 25bb in this situation?
    • kymupa
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      I would go broke here with 77+, AT+, KQs against unknown.
    • GreenPiece
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      And one more question, hope I don't annoy you too much.

      How do you get this range? Because of you experience or there's some math to do and we can say theoretically it's a good range to go AI here?
    • sausage646
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      Originally posted by GreenPiece
      But shove over minraise with small pocket gives the advantage of fold equity as opposed to possibility of call plus the playability of this hand OOP is really bad.
      I said : when you pick up a enough good hand go for a 3bet rather than shove.

      But the 55, you are behind and can't even call for set value, so easy fold. (call 20rule)
    • kymupa
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      Well, this is my usual range that I use against unknown shortstackers.

      How I got to it is by using Equilab - I typed an exemplary range, and started making my range by different calculations - how much should they possibly fold, with which range would they continue, how do I stand with different ranges against their possible ranges etc.