[NL20-NL50] KJo against maniac 3better

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      Prima, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (SB): $62.38 (124.8 bb)
      BB: $64.70 (129.4 bb)
      UTG: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
      MP: $55.62 (111.2 bb)
      CO: $53.12 (106.2 bb)
      BTN: $50 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K J
      4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $5.50

      Flop: ($20) 4 J 4 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $13, Hero raises to $52.38 and is all-in, BB calls $39.38

      Turn: ($124.76) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($124.76) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $124.76 pot ($3.00 rake)
      Final Board: 4 J 4 7 9
      Hero showed K J and won $121.76 ($59.38 net)
      BB showed 8 J and lost (-$62.38 net)


      40/21/128 3b 11.4 against hero 50

      Against this villain, should I 4b for value?

      and on flop, c/r was better than b/c because he had to bluff much with wide range?
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      I think aj and kq should be value 4bets kj is close but i dun mind 4betting here. Having more stats would help ' fold to 4b, call 4b, positional 3b.

      With minimal reads ill just 4b pre and bet 12 on f and shove T.
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      He did call 4b against me before this table.

      On flop, c/r was better than b because he often bluff?
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      "He did call 4b against me before this table."

      Did you get to see the showdown? Seeing some crap like 97s would be a huge read

      "On flop, c/r was better than b because he often bluff?"

      What makes you think this is the case? Any postflop stats? Bet IP vs missed cbet? While it could be fine to assume that he's likelier to be more aggro than the average opponent, he doesn't necessarily bet all the time when checked to.

      Besides if he's aggro you might as well c/c and induce all the way, you can always value shove the river if he checks turn given that there is so little money left in stacks.