[NL20-NL50] AA 5bet pot

    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      iPoker - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 124.94 BB (VPIP: 21.70, PFR: 17.87, 3Bet Preflop: 5.65, Hands: 487)
      UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 31.48, PFR: 26.85, 3Bet Preflop: 17.78, Hands: 110)
      MP: 191.9 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 50)
      CO: 261.4 BB (VPIP: 22.72, PFR: 20.09, 3Bet Preflop: 10.33, Hands: 935)
      BTN: 108.66 BB (VPIP: 27.70, PFR: 22.84, 3Bet Preflop: 7.80, Hands: 614)
      Hero (SB): 119.5 BB

      Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: A:heart:

      fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, MP raises to 24 BB, Hero raises to 38 BB, MP calls 14 BB

      Flop: (77 BB, 2 players) 8:heart: 3:heart: 6:diamond:
      Hero bets 14 BB, MP raises to 59.5 BB, Hero raises to 81.5 BB, MP calls 22 BB

      Turn: (240 BB, 2 players) 4:spade:

      River: (240 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:

      MP shows K:heart: K:diamond: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
      Hero shows A:club: A:heart: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
      Hero wins 234 BB


      What do you think about min 5bet (which I play only with hands which I stack preflop) because I want to make him shove light, or call light.
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      Best spots to use min5bets
      -Smaller bet sizes used, more room for making smaller re-raises
      E.G. BU minraise to 2bb, SB 3bets to 7bb, BU 4bets to 15bb, SB 5bets to 30bb
      -Stack depth is more than 100bb

      Here I suppose you were slightly deep, so I'll probably make it 40bb here and we are still not committed since we only put in 1/3 of our starting stack.

      The thing though is whether you are balanced here. At lower limits people typically only use min 5bets with KK/AA. You should have some bluffs mixed in as well.

      Thanks.
    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      Originally posted by mbml
      Hi.

      Best spots to use min5bets
      -Smaller bet sizes used, more room for making smaller re-raises
      E.G. BU minraise to 2bb, SB 3bets to 7bb, BU 4bets to 15bb, SB 5bets to 30bb
      -Stack depth is more than 100bb

      Here I suppose you were slightly deep, so I'll probably make it 40bb here and we are still not committed since we only put in 1/3 of our starting stack.

      The thing though is whether you are balanced here. At lower limits people typically only use min 5bets with KK/AA. You should have some bluffs mixed in as well.

      Thanks.
      I do it with all hands I want to go all in, JJ+, AK.
      I tried to balance it, but it doesnt work. They still go all in with any hand they usually go, plus they might go even wider because they still have FE.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      "They still go all in with any hand they usually go"

      What do you mean by this? If they are 4bet bluffing, they fold right? We use smaller bet sizes so we can 5bet bluff at a cheaper price (Putting in around 15-20bb more instead of pushing our entire stack of 90bb more)

      This is the main reason why we should use a smaller 5bet size -> To enable us to have a bluffing range

      "plus they might go even wider because they still have FE."

      This is why we do it with value hands as well for balance.

      If you are only doing it with value hands, then it defeats the purpose of having the min 5bet, unless you think that your opponent is just 6bet shoving all sorts of crap and the min5bet with value hands will induce him to spazz.