[NL2-NL10] NL10SH - QQ vs 4bet

    • Guthans
      Joined: 16.12.2009 Posts: 766
      According to my range I should be stacking here preflop, however, I don't really see too many random villains 4bet/stacking worse here, right?

      I've heard several times that QQ "doesn't flop well" - what exactly does that mean?

      As played, I feel like I isolate myself to the hands that I was trying to avoid when calling the 4bet instead of 5bet jamming, with the addition of some AK draws etc.

      What is the recommended action in a spot like this and why?'

      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
      6 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      UTG Dipalist ($11.72) 117bb
      UTG+1 ARIS19141988 ($11.68) 117bb
      CO m11kk4 ($20.12) 201bb
      BTN Guthan ($11.40) 114bb
      SB POksaG ($10.64) 106bb
      BB obivatel24 ($22.17) 222bb

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Guthan is BTN Q:spade: Q:heart:
      2 folds, m11kk4 raises to $0.25, Guthan raises to $0.80, 2 folds, m11kk4 raises to $1.75, Guthan calls $0.95

      Flop: 7:club: 5:club: 10:diamond: ($3.65, 2 players)
      m11kk4 bets $1.75, Guthan goes all-in $9.65, m11kk4 calls $7.90

      Turn: 3:heart: ($22.95, 2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: 9:club: ($22.95, 2 players, 1 all-in)

      Final Pot: $22.95
      Guthan shows a pair of Queens
      Q:spade: Q:heart:
      m11kk4 shows a pair of Aces
      A:spade: A:club:

      m11kk4 wins $21.92 (net +$10.52)

      Guthan lost $11.40
  • 1 reply
    • cutegoldfish
      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 4,335
      i think he could stack off worse maybe JJ+ AQ+ but that entirely depends on the opponent, he could go as tight as KK+ AK here.

      "QQ" does not flop well means that 50% of the time we see A or K which makes QQ 2nd pair on the board.

      on this board its wet although i dont think it hits his 4bet range, i would expect mainly broadways on his range and overpairs. against that range i think when we jam most of the overcards would fold and pairs and strong draws would call. however if we make a small raise to like 4.5 i think he could jam some worse hands he would otherwise have folded.