[NL2-NL10] NL4 SH: Q8s

    • acetbfish
      acetbfish
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      Joined: 11.03.2011 Posts: 804
      BU is playing with stats 20/16/7.1, fold to flop cbet 2/3 in 133 hands.
      SB is a big fish with stats 72/6/8.3, fold to flop cbet 2/8 in 32 hands.

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.04(BB) Replayer
      SB ($4.85)
      BB ($3.92)
      UTG ($2.30)
      Hero ($6.43)
      BTN ($5.37)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: 8:diamond:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.12, BTN calls $0.12, SB calls $0.10, fold

      FLOP ($0.40) K:diamond: 3:diamond: Q:heart:

      SB checks, Hero bets $0.26, BTN folds, SB calls $0.26

      TURN ($0.92) K:diamond: 3:diamond: Q:heart: 9:club:

      SB checks, Hero checks

      RIVER ($0.92) K:diamond: 3:diamond: Q:heart: 9:club: 4:spade:

      SB checks, Hero checks

      Is wrong checking the turn here with so much equity against this player? Also, did I lose some value on the river or checking is fine?
  • 3 replies
    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
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      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 4,335
      flop - definitely betting here with 2nd pair for value usually and we can bet later if we hit the flush or 8 or bluff on A.

      turn - while against most people i think its a check back, i see some reasons for betting against this SB, hes so wide and folds to little to flop Cbet i think we can expect him to call worse than Qx, maybe Ax, maybe a hand like 9T J9 for gutshot and smaller pocket pairs so i think betting small on the turn is slightly better than checking back.

      whats his WTS like on the river? do you think he calls A high? or 4th and 5th pair?

      cgf
    • acetbfish
      acetbfish
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      Joined: 11.03.2011 Posts: 804
      I am not using at all the WTS stat.

      On the river I was thinking that he could call with a worse Q or with some 9x if I bet small.
    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
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      Joined: 19.11.2009 Posts: 4,335
      in that case i think river value is pretty thin, i expect him to check some Kx and then call it. and also call better Q. i would check back here.

      however if i see him calling a hand like 22, 55 A high then i think we have value in a small bet.

      cgf