[NL20-NL50] AQo 3bpot float

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Prima, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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      Hero (BTN): $50.75 (101.5 bb)
      SB: $50 (100 bb)
      BB: $50 (100 bb)
      MP: $40.93 (81.9 bb)
      CO: $50.75 (101.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q A
      2 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $4.25, BB folds, Hero calls $3.25

      Flop: ($9) K 4 9 (2 players)
      SB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

      Turn: ($18) 2 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $11.25, SB calls $11.25

      River: ($40.50) 2 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Results: $40.50 pot ($2.02 rake)
      Final Board: K 4 9 2 2
      Hero mucked Q A and lost (-$20 net)
      SB showed J K and won $38.48 ($18.48 net)

      31/15/220 3b 11

      On turn, it was good to float?
  • 5 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Hey,

      What are you trying to bluff him off on the turn when you bet?
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      small PP mid PP.

      I didn't have the way to win pot except bluff out..

      On this board, even float was bad?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Does he 3bet preflop with small to medium pocket pairs though? That's first thing you have to think about. Next you also have the real problem of does he fold it to one bet? He is basically then cbetting as a bluff when you fold nothing better and giving up on a blank. Furthermore, is the small to mid pair range enough of a folding range compared to his non-folding range to bluff here?
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      If assuming his 3b range was
      AA~TT,AQo+,A9s~J9s,T8s~86s,87s,76s,A2s~A5s 8.5%

      folding hand was
      AQo half of suited it will be about 3.15% and 9 might call so about 2.5%

      so my FE was 30%.

      hmm, my bet was too large?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Hmmm... does he cbet all those hands though? That's the problem imo.. He will check/fold sometimes from the flop or check/call, he won't cbet. If he won't cbet them, you can't include them in his turn range.

      My main point is that you should bet turn and river if you are going to bet imo because otherwise you get a turn call way too often to be profitable overall. That's to make him fold lower than Kx imo. Apart from that, you have to consider your showdown value and if you can get to showdown because you beat all his air with AQ here. Depends if it's worth making him fold his equity or not.