[NL20-NL50] JJ 3bet river call

    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      iPoker - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (BB): 112.44 BB
      UTG: 101.14 BB (VPIP: 20.77, PFR: 18.71, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 479)
      MP: 185.08 BB (VPIP: 41.46, PFR: 36.59, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
      CO: 86.8 BB (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 11.52, 3Bet Preflop: 3.94, Hands: 1,847)
      BTN: 99 BB (VPIP: 21.27, PFR: 18.82, 3Bet Preflop: 7.89, Hands: 1,749)
      SB: 149.6 BB (VPIP: 23.24, PFR: 19.65, 3Bet Preflop: 8.40, Hands: 3,148)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:heart: J:spade:

      fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, MP calls 7 BB

      Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) Q:spade: 3:club: 5:heart:
      Hero bets 11 BB, MP calls 11 BB

      Turn: (42.5 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:
      Hero checks, MP bets 21.24 BB, Hero calls 21.24 BB

      River: (84.98 BB, 2 players) A:club:
      Hero checks, MP bets 42.48 BB, Hero calls 42.48 BB

      Hero shows J:heart: J:spade: (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (Pre 83%, Flop 93%, Turn 100%)
      MP shows 7:spade: T:spade: (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 17%, Flop 7%, Turn 0%)
      Hero wins 163.94 BB


      should I fold river? I am not sure if he would bet river Ax when he floats flop and bets turn. Also he is fish.
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hi,

      Why do you now bet turn if he is a fish? Do you know he likes to bet vs missed 2nd barrel? I woudl expect his range to contain hands with showdown value more predominantly, although as weak as A high. My line would be to continue betting on that gret turn.

      As played, with a turn check, I would definitely want to call twice, othewise, it's probably not good to check to induce bluffs, it's just a contradiction when you check to induce bluffs and then you fold on cards that don't change the hand value that much.
    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Hi,

      Why do you now bet turn if he is a fish? Do you know he likes to bet vs missed 2nd barrel? I woudl expect his range to contain hands with showdown value more predominantly, although as weak as A high. My line would be to continue betting on that gret turn.

      As played, with a turn check, I would definitely want to call twice, othewise, it's probably not good to check to induce bluffs, it's just a contradiction when you check to induce bluffs and then you fold on cards that don't change the hand value that much.
      I have very few hands on him, and dont remember any action with him.
      So on turn, I know that Q is a good card for me (and probably for him if having PP), but I wanted to pot control with my middle pair. Would you shove river if he calls turn on blank?
      Also would you shove on A high river, or check/call, or check/fold?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hey,

      I would shove all rivers but Ace if he is a fish after betting the turn. He does not have enough combos that beat you compared to all those midpais he can call with and should call if your thinking is that he is a fish.