[NL20-NL50] ATs 3bet

    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      iPoker - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      SB: 103 BB (VPIP: 23.24, PFR: 19.65, 3Bet Preflop: 8.40, Hands: 3,148)
      BB: 133.68 BB (VPIP: 21.37, PFR: 17.91, 3Bet Preflop: 7.44, Hands: 3,321)
      CO: 88.42 BB (VPIP: 24.88, PFR: 9.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 213)
      Hero (BTN): 476.9 BB

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T:heart: A:heart:

      CO raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 5 BB

      Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 7:heart: 9:club: 3:diamond:
      CO checks, Hero checks

      Turn: (15.5 BB, 2 players) J:heart:
      CO bets 7.74 BB, Hero calls 7.74 BB

      River: (30.98 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond:
      CO bets 15.48 BB, Hero raises to 462.16 BB and is all-in, fold

      Hero shows T:heart: A:heart: (Straight, Jack High)
      Hero wins 58.86 BB

      He folds 70% to 3bet, and this is not the board which I want to bet bet bet, so I take a free card.

      Is it better raise/broke turn?

      Is river shove ok, or better raise smaller? Still I could get call with sets which are very likely and TQs is very unlikely.
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hey,

      I would say flop can be a cbet and bet/bet/shove on many runouts when you have 2 overs, BD flush, BD straight and plenty of scare cards.

      As played on flop, I would play the same on turn, you have great odds and can still bluff some rivers. On the river, I think you raised to big to get called by sets.. I would usually go for like a minraise+1bb tbh to induce sort of the curiosity call, when they just want to see Tx with their good hand.
    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Hey,

      I would say flop can be a cbet and bet/bet/shove on many runouts when you have 2 overs, BD flush, BD straight and plenty of scare cards.

      As played on flop, I would play the same on turn, you have great odds and can still bluff some rivers. On the river, I think you raised to big to get called by sets.. I would usually go for like a minraise+1bb tbh to induce sort of the curiosity call, when they just want to see Tx with their good hand.

      But doesnt it look much stronger when you just minraise? You are basically telling him I have Tx 100% of time. Because if I shove river, I could do that with e.g missed fd. So I thought, if he doesnt believe me, he would call with set. Still I didnt expect to get called to often in this spot
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Any raise represents Tx or better for value imo so you just need to give him better odds. You are assuming his calling range here is basically inelastic but I think it's not.. I think giving him excellent odds with a set will get a call a lot more often than when you ship it in.