[NL20-NL50] KK vs 4bet cold

    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      iPoker - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 102.68 BB (VPIP: 20.61, PFR: 12.42, 3Bet Preflop: 1.54, Hands: 339)
      UTG: 104.56 BB (VPIP: 17.49, PFR: 13.92, 3Bet Preflop: 6.69, Hands: 2,486)
      MP: 99.5 BB (VPIP: 22.52, PFR: 19.73, 3Bet Preflop: 11.75, Hands: 1,008)
      CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 16.34, 3Bet Preflop: 9.28, Hands: 1,919)
      BTN: 73.14 BB (VPIP: 54.95, PFR: 23.33, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 94)
      Hero (SB): 159.38 BB

      Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:diamond: K:heart:

      fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BB raises to 24 BB, fold, Hero raises to 159.38 BB and is all-in, fold

      Hero shows K:diamond: K:heart: ()
      Hero wins 51 BB


      he 3bets only 1.54, so I am not sure if KK is fold. I normally never fold KK for 100 bb, but I cant see the stat 1.5 % 3bet in nl50 so often, so I am not sure if fold is too weak. Is it a big sample enough?
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      That's kind of ugly. In such spots I prefer just flatting and hoping that he has something more than AA here, and let him spazz postflop.
    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      Originally posted by mbml
      Hi.

      That's kind of ugly. In such spots I prefer just flatting and hoping that he has something more than AA here, and let him spazz postflop.
      Can we really expect him to have something different than QQ+, AK when he 3bets only 1.5%?
      I thought that If I flat, and if he has AK he is going to give up if he doesnt hit (4outs) and also with QQ I might lose value if scare card comes. If he would have AA, we would end up all in anyway (since there are 2 A left as scare card), so I thought I am losing value if I flat.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Well youll be surprised. Low frequency does not mean no frequency. And if he has ak i think such a nit may 4b/fold that hand

      Is a shove +ev? I think so. But i think a call is slightly better to avoid isolating ourselves vs aa.