[NL20-NL50] KTo 2 pair turn raised

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      Prima, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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      Hero (SB): $52 (104 bb)
      BB: $42.64 (85.3 bb)
      CO: $64.85 (129.7 bb)
      BTN: $57.85 (115.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T K
      2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

      Flop: ($3) K T 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2, BB calls $2

      Turn: ($7) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.50, BB raises to $10.25, Hero calls $5.75

      River: ($27.50) J (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $13.75, Hero folds

      Results:
      $27.50 pot ($1.37 rake)
      Final Board: K T 7 A J
      Hero mucked T K and lost (-$13.75 net)
      BB showed Q J and won $26.13 ($12.38 net)


      42/17/431 raise cb 13 turn raise 38(8)

      Against this opponent, can I call his raise?
      I think he has enough bluff range.
  • 4 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Gonchan,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: Given we have a fish we can cbet both flop and turn bigger.

      What bluff range do you expect a fish to have there? Turn raise of 38% out of 8 hands means that he raised 3 hands out of 8 and this is one of them.

      How aggro was he overall on flop/turn/river? How often does he folds to cbets? How about showdowns as we have a big sample?
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      I didn't have special read.

      af was 1.5.

      turn raise 38 wasn't enough to do specific move?
    • pokerferrer
      pokerferrer
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.03.2008 Posts: 6,347
      3 of 8 is very huge raise percentage. I am pretty sure such type of fishes are able to play in a same way AQ, AJ, QJ, even T7, or 98 of spades (any other spade combo-draw), mb even JT... Versus this range we are ahead, and due to we are out of postion we have to stack here and now. And out of position we don't want to see bad cards and also he can sometimes checkbehind river with hands which are weaker and ready to stack on the turn.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by pokerferrer
      3 of 8 is very huge raise percentage. I am pretty sure such type of fishes are able to play in a same way AQ, AJ, QJ, even T7, or 98 of spades (any other spade combo-draw), mb even JT... Versus this range we are ahead, and due to we are out of postion we have to stack here and now. And out of position we don't want to see bad cards and also he can sometimes checkbehind river with hands which are weaker and ready to stack on the turn.
      Again, 38% is 3 hands. One of those hands is this.

      So 2 hands out of 7 is not a lot in the grand scheme of things and I wouldn't assume that he is crazy just on that stat. However that stat tells us that yes he is capable of raising but we just don't know if he just got lucky or he actually is an aggro player.

      AF of 1.5 is really passive so if you compare that to the raise you get mixed signals.

      If that 38% was over 30-40 hands or even 20 then it would be a different story.