[NL2-NL10] NL 50 - KK vs push at turn

    • karel0050
      karel0050
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      Joined: 13.11.2007 Posts: 11
      $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
      6 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG bullitshot ($49.00)
      UTG 1 RogersGold ($28.95)
      CO DarthT8r ($54.65)
      BTN Davlex ($44.60)
      SB Hero ($49.50)
      BB ZeRenegade ($10.95)

      Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is SB K:heart: K:diamond:
      3 folds, Davlex calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, Davlex calls $2

      Flop: J:club: 3:spade: 9:diamond: ($5.50, 2 players)
      Hero bets $4, Davlex raises to $8, Hero calls $4

      Turn: 3:heart: ($21.50, 2 players)
      Hero checks, Davlex goes all-in $34.10, Hero says "wtf", Hero folds

      Final Pot: $21.50

      Davlex wins $54.55 ( won $9.95 )
      Hero lost -$10.50
  • 7 replies
    • gggeorgio
      gggeorgio
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      Joined: 05.09.2007 Posts: 494
      I thinks this is a good fold, because a lot of players try to overbet some of their really strong hands.
    • arjun2001
      arjun2001
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      Joined: 28.03.2008 Posts: 352
      I think you should bet on turn to see where your opponent is and fold to a re raise all in.
    • Hellrabbit
      Hellrabbit
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      Joined: 30.01.2007 Posts: 54
      I really like the "wtf"-comment there :p
    • GrantJennings
      GrantJennings
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      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 232
      I agree with arjun2001. A bet on the turn will block the bluff-push against most players. His checkraise on the flop gave him just what he wanted: he found out you thought you might be weak. I like defining the hand more to scare off a big bluff. You might lose more when they have a hand, but you'll take down more pots where you are ahead against compulsive bluffers.

      I also agree with Hellrabbit. I know that wtf feeling. Problem is, I'm a payoff wizard, and I'll call.

      You have to fold in this spot though, unless the guy is an ATM. gggeorgio is totally right.

      But I'd call. I'm a fish.
    • sw0ldo
      sw0ldo
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      Joined: 31.07.2007 Posts: 397
      The 3 was great for your hand and it's pretty unlikely he has one. Do you realy think he's doing this with a fullhouse?

      I'm calling this all day.
    • xylere
      xylere
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      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      Hey karel0050,

      I don't have much sh experience, but in my opinion its a fold

      Button limpers are usually pretty passive players and on such a board (given the action) we will be fairly often behind.

      With Jx he will often just calls the flop
      and the whole minraise flop - push turn line looks pretty scarry

      he could easily limp J9 or even maybe 33 (even though, only 1 combo left)

      So i think its close

      and please, do not post the results in future, since it reduces objectivity of evaluation
    • Hellrabbit
      Hellrabbit
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      Joined: 30.01.2007 Posts: 54
      Originally posted by sw0ldo
      The 3 was great for your hand and it's pretty unlikely he has one. Do you realy think he's doing this with a fullhouse?

      I'm calling this all day.
      At higher stakes I tend to agree with you, there's not much that can beat him inside villains range.