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[NL2-NL10] NL5 FR KK easy fold

    • Dawidas888
      Joined: 22.06.2009 Posts: 826
      Known Players:
      UTG3: $1.48 - 30 bb
      MP1: $6.14 - 123 bb
      MP2: $5.31 - 106 bb
      MP3: $12.50 - 250 bb
      CO: $4.98 - 100 bb
      BU: $5.04 - 101 bb
      SB: $5.84 - 117 bb
      BB: $6.12 - 122 bb

      0.02/0.05 No Limit Hold'em (8 Handed)
      Hand recorder for this hand: SideKick 1.1.417.4

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K:spade: , K:diamond:
      Hero posts small blind ($0.02), BB posts big blind ($0.05), UTG3 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, Hero raises for $0.23, BB calls, MP1 calls

      Flop: ($0.75 - 15 bb) J:club: , T:spade: , 2:spade: (3 Players)
      Hero bets $0.60, BB calls, MP1 folds

      Turn: ($1.95 - 39 bb) A:club: (2 Players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $1.40, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled back ($1.40)


      MP1 was 44/0/0 over 40.
      BB was 16/11/5 over 111.

      Preflop: raise bigger vs a fish - +1BB.

      Flop: nice bet. Maybe I could even pot it like a pro vs a fish?

      Turn: me no like turn card. KQ got there, Ax FD beats me, not much value in betting. If he checks I could bet the river for some more thin vlaue.
      When he bets I'm pretty sure I'm behind.

      Edit: addded BB stats.
  • 6 replies
    • TheWinnerTakesItAll
      Joined: 28.01.2012 Posts: 1,187
      We don't have BB stats, but even vs unknown I would bet on the turn around 1,25$, because he is not folding KJ,QJ and if he is on the looser side he can have even more Jx hands. He has a lot of FD's in his range too + A is a good card for him to bluff when you check, so by betting you get some value and don't get him a chance to bluff you. If he raises on the turn we have easy fold.

      That is just my opinion.
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779

      Definitely betting turn if bb is loose. He is going to have many worse JX hands like J9 J8 QJ KJ as well as a ton of draws. While the turn card is pretty terrible, i still think making a thin turn value bet is gping to be the best play.

    • Dawidas888
      Joined: 22.06.2009 Posts: 826
      After he calls the flop it's mostly I'm behind even vs his quite loose range.
      Board: JcTs2sAc
      Equity Win Tie
      MP2 40.18% 39.11% 1.08% { KdKs }
      MP3 59.82% 58.74% 1.08% { JJ-TT, 22, AJs-ATs, KTs+, QJs, JTs, AsQs, AJo, KJo+, QJo, JTo }

      When I bet the turn I don't really have a plan for the river except to bluffcatch which is usually unprofitable in NL5 so I prefer just c/f the turn.

      But I may be wrong as so often I am :f_cool:
    • Dawidas888
      Joined: 22.06.2009 Posts: 826
      What's the plan on the safe river?
    • CPallo
      Joined: 12.04.2012 Posts: 4,350
      Many players float random crap there, so it's possible to fire another barrel. We also have BD-equity for straight, so I'd prefer to value-bet here knowing that only better hands will raise us. This way we don't give villain a chance to bluff us out.
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Turn Plan
      Firstly, with 40% equity, you defininitely have more than enough equity to c/c the Turn (unless you think his Turn betting range is much stronger than his Turn calling range)

      Secondly, your estimation for villain's range is way too pessimistic. You did not include any flush draws in his range, which comprise a good part of the range of hands we are value betting against. Also, he probably 3bets or raises JJ/TT/22 preflop or on the Flop some % of the time so you need to discount that.

      River Plan
      I would c/c a non / river and I'll fold on a /