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[NL2-NL10] KK overpaire check raised

    • Edukator99
      Edukator99
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.07.2010 Posts: 240
      PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
      SB: 201 BB (VPIP: 17.05, PFR: 0.78, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 131)
      Hero (BB): 113 BB
      UTG: 159 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 10.42, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 49)
      UTG+1: 124 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)
      UTG+2: 95 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
      MP: 164.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
      MP+1: 113 BB (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
      CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:heart: K:club:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 12.5 BB, fold, SB calls 10 BB

      Flop: (27.5 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond: 7:spade: T:spade:
      SB checks, Hero bets 15 BB, SB raises to 30 BB, fold

      SB wins 55.5 BB


      Very aggravating! Why check raise? I figured he must have a set so I folded. Either that or he was on a flush draw. His stats are 17 VP over 100 hands so I figure he's checking in with pairs for sure.
  • 5 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hello Edukator,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: How aggressive is villain over this sample? We have 131 hands which means that we have a bit more info about his postflop play.

      Is he aggro or passive?

      If he is super passive then we have a fold otherwise there's no way I'm dropping overpair in a 3-bet pot here.
    • Edukator99
      Edukator99
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      Joined: 18.07.2010 Posts: 240
      hmm.... his aggression factor is 3.50.

      He's bet 6/17 (35%) on the flop but... but he's 5/12 (42%) betting into limped pots...and he limps in every time.

      His check raise is 1/2, but does PT4 include the one he just did to me in that?

      Weird stats.

      He's aggressive though.

      Honestly though. Let's say he has a set there. Is a check raise a good idea? Wouldn't it make more sense to call?

      I don't really understand the purpose of a check raise if you're strong.

      I guess to avoid people drawing out on wet boards?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by Edukator99
      hmm.... his aggression factor is 3.50.

      He's bet 6/17 (35%) on the flop but... but he's 5/12 (42%) betting into limped pots...and he limps in every time.

      His check raise is 1/2, but does PT4 include the one he just did to me in that?

      Weird stats.

      He's aggressive though.

      Honestly though. Let's say he has a set there. Is a check raise a good idea? Wouldn't it make more sense to call?

      I don't really understand the purpose of a check raise if you're strong.

      I guess to avoid people drawing out on wet boards?
      The ck/raise would be purely for value.

      Most people are not able to fold those overpairs or even TP and yes you get value/protect versus draws. The board is somewhat wet.
    • Edukator99
      Edukator99
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      Joined: 18.07.2010 Posts: 240
      So... do you think the fold was good based on those stats? :)
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by Edukator99
      So... do you think the fold was good based on those stats? :)
      Hard to say, I think it's close because he showcased aggressive tendencies but most of them were in limped pots not in 3-bet pots.

      But I think that you are most likely correct to fold there though.