[NL2-NL10] QQ facing shove on wet flop

    • Cooperman45
      Cooperman45
      Basic
      Joined: 14.12.2011 Posts: 62
      OnGame - $0.10 NL FAST (5 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      XACEOFICEX (BTN): $0.42 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 8)
      megusta7 (SB): $6.00 (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
      xpokerx0 (BB): $10.00 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
      Cooperman451 (UTG): $10.99
      waggy44 (CO): $14.04 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

      megusta7 posts SB $0.05, xpokerx0 posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Cooperman451 has Q:diamond: Q:spade:

      Cooperman451 raises to $0.40, waggy44 calls $0.40, XACEOFICEX raises to $0.42 and is all-in, fold, fold, Cooperman451 calls $0.02, waggy44 calls $0.02

      Flop: ($1.41, 3 players) 6:spade: 8:spade: 5:heart:
      Cooperman451 bets $0.90, waggy44 raises to $13.62 and is all-in, Cooperman451 calls $9.67 and is all-in

      Turn: ($22.55, 3 players) K:spade:

      River: ($22.55, 3 players) A:diamond:

      Seems like a standard fold now I look at it
  • 3 replies
    • CPallo
      CPallo
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.04.2012 Posts: 4,343
      I think he has more made hands in his raise range on such flop than draws, as these guys usually don't want to risk their whole stack without a made hand, and if they do, they raise smaller.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi,

      I don't mind just bet/folding here. The board texture is really bad and you lose to a ton of better made hands like 79s/66/55/88/56s/68s

      http://www.pokerstrategy.com
      Board: 6s8s5h
      Equity Win Tie
      MP2 35.30% 34.20% 1.10% { QhQs }
      MP3 64.70% 63.60% 1.10% { 88, 66-55, 97s, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, AsKs, AsJs, KsJs, AsTs, As9s, As7s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s }

      The pot odds you are getting is closer to 43%
    • Cooperman45
      Cooperman45
      Basic
      Joined: 14.12.2011 Posts: 62
      agreed, such a drawy flop though but I guess his range since he called IP. Think it's a fold at these stakes but I don't think it is a simple one, here is his possible range in my opinion

      88-55,AsKs,AQs-A2s,KsJs,KsTs,Ks9s,K8s,97s,86s+,76s,87o
      we have 46% against this range

      However, as you said if villain has less bluffs with this line it becomes a definite fold