[NL2-NL10] NL5 FR AJs turn/river spots - call?

    • Dawidas888
      Dawidas888
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      0.02/0.05 No Limit Hold'em (9 Handed)
      Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 1.1.417.4

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:spade: , J:spade:
      Hero posts small blind ($0.02), BB posts big blind ($0.05), 5 folds, CO raises for $0.15, BU folds, Hero calls, BB folds

      Flop: ($0.35 - 7 bb) J:diamond: , 8:spade: , 7:diamond: (2 Players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.16, Hero calls

      Turn: ($0.67 - 13.40 bb) 3:heart: (2 Players)
      Hero bets $0.40, CO raises for $1.12, Hero calls

      River: ($2.91 - 58.20 bb) 6:spade: (2 Players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $1.38, Hero calls

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      CO was 19/13/3.9 over 162 with AF of 2.

      PRE
      Defending.

      FLOP
      I was thinking about c/r that he could call with many draws possible on this board.
      If I c/r my plan would be to donk turn and c/c safe river.

      TURN
      Since his bet was small on the flop and the board is draw heavy, I don't want to give him a free card so I donk.
      When I get raised I think it's possible that I'm still ahead due to the possibility of several draws/weaker pairs + draws.

      RIVER
      Was hoping for a check back.
      Getting good odds to call and since most draws missed I figure I will still be ahead often enough to make this call profitable.
  • 5 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Hi Dawidas,

      Preflop: look fine

      Postflop: I think that a ck/raise on the flop, given his bet size, is not a bad idea.

      However, as played I would donk larger and if you are assuming you are ahead we should just ship the turn. OR what range did you expect him to bet less than half pot and then raise turn? Besides 33?
    • Dawidas888
      Dawidas888
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      Joined: 22.06.2009 Posts: 826
      Hi Bogdan

      Thanks for all the evaluations!

      When I was raised on the turn I expect him to have some AK, AQ, AT, T8, 98. I'm struggling with his range here :f_confused: maybe he could also have some slowplayed JJ/88/77.

      I like the turn shipping idea but given that I have 140+ bb's behind wouldn't that isolate me vs his stronger range? I think FD would struggle to call here.

      What would you estimate his range to be on the turn?

      Thanks again!
      Dawidas
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Dawidas888
      Hi Bogdan

      Thanks for all the evaluations!

      When I was raised on the turn I expect him to have some AK, AQ, AT, T8, 98. I'm struggling with his range here :f_confused: maybe he could also have some slowplayed JJ/88/77.

      I like the turn shipping idea but given that I have 140+ bb's behind wouldn't that isolate me vs his stronger range? I think FD would struggle to call here.

      What would you estimate his range to be on the turn?

      Thanks again!
      Dawidas
      You are right, I did not check the stack sizes and it should be a 3-bet rather than a shove.

      And given how deep we are we can 3-bet/fold still.

      I think his range is big slowplayed monsters (betting small to induce), 33 and draws/weakers hands. So a 3-bet would get value from those weaker made hands or draws while we can still fold to the better part of his range which is mostly shoving.
    • Dawidas888
      Dawidas888
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      If we 3bet and he calls do we:
      1) c/call; or
      2) donk
      on safe river?

      I would go for a c/call if he bets 1/2 pot; c/f if he shoves :f_confused:

      What's the plan for the river? Safe and not safe, e.g. completing FD or 4-to-a-straight?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Originally posted by Dawidas888
      If we 3bet and he calls do we:
      1) c/call; or
      2) donk
      on safe river?

      I would go for a c/call if he bets 1/2 pot; c/f if he shoves :f_confused:

      What's the plan for the river? Safe and not safe, e.g. completing FD or 4-to-a-straight?
      On FD we can check/fold.

      On anything else below a J we can bet/fold for value versus Jx type hands.