[NL2-NL10] NL10 SH speed: QJs

    • acetbfish
      acetbfish
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      Joined: 11.03.2011 Posts: 804
      No reads on the villain.

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($14.92)
      BB ($12.61)
      UTG ($11.74)
      UTG+1 ($10)
      CO ($3.43)
      BTN ($15.64)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: J:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero?

      Am I 3betting or calling against unknown here?
  • 9 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      I would call in BB and 3bet in SB vs unknown. As much as possible you should avoid having a calling range in the SB. You don't want BB to come along by overcalling or squeezing you out of the hand.

      Thanks.
    • acetbfish
      acetbfish
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      Joined: 11.03.2011 Posts: 804
      Hi mbml, what hands are you calling here?
    • GreenPiece
      GreenPiece
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      And one more question, say CO raises and we're on SB with hand definitely worth playing (99 or AQ), what is preferred action for you?
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I try not to have a calling range there. Maybe if the BU min-raised and if BB was tight then I may call some small pocket pairs and suited connectors but mostly I would prefer just 3-betting preflop.
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Originally posted by GreenPiece
      And one more question, say CO raises and we're on SB with hand definitely worth playing (99 or AQ), what is preferred action for you?
      I would usually 3bet AQ anyway and 99 too. but of course if CO's opening range is tight then maybe you can think about calling Preflop. If CO is 4betting a ton then I'm definitely 3betting AQ and 99.

      I also prefer calling if villain has a really high FT3B of 80%+ cos 3betting would simply be wasting the value of the hand.
    • GreenPiece
      GreenPiece
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      Thanks for your opinion! Different judges have different preferences must say :)
    • mbml
      mbml
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      i used to cold call quite a lot in SB, at least for the stakes I play (200 or 500) I tend to get squeezed a lot more.

      I suppose cold-calling in SB is not so bad at lower limits due to the lower levels of aggression, but as a general principle you should avoid it as much as possible.
    • acetbfish
      acetbfish
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      Joined: 11.03.2011 Posts: 804
      Hey mbml,

      I played this hand against unknown (I would be grateful if you could evaluate it :) ):

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($10.60)
      BB ($16.66)
      UTG ($5)
      UTG+1 ($10.73)
      CO ($4.58)
      BTN ($12.53)

      Dealt to Hero Q:spade: J:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, fold, BTN calls $0.60

      FLOP ($1.70) Q:club: 7:diamond: 7:club:

      Hero bets $1, BTN raises to $2.10, Hero folds

      BTN wins $3.46

      and it really confused me.
      Doesn't 3betting hands like QJ, KJ, 99 etc get us in difficult spots if the button calls? I'm talking about the times were we are in a marginal spot like that.
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Just call and see what happens. Villain is repping a really narrow range. I don't think 7X should be raising too often, or that he should have too many 7X hands. I also think that KK+ usually 4bets preflop, and AQ/KQ usually calls. So he is often on a flush draw here. Fold on club turns, and on blank turns you can probably c/c again and decide on river.