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[NL20-NL50] Overbet on the river

    • fotakis
      fotakis
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.11.2010 Posts: 88
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
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      BB is 13/11 over 15k .
      His check raise on that dry flop plus his overbet on he river sent me signals of bluffing.

      BTN: $12.26 (49 bb)
      SB: $25 (100 bb)
      BB: $29.43 (117.7 bb)
      MP1: $25 (100 bb)
      Hero (MP2): $33.89 (135.6 bb)
      MP3: $9.75 (39 bb)
      CO: $46.05 (184.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T T
      MP1 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, BB calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.60) 4 Q 7 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2.60, Hero calls $1.60

      Turn: ($6.80) 9 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks

      River: ($6.80) 5 (2 players)
      BB bets $8.60, Hero calls $8.60

      Results:
      $24 pot ($1.08 rake)
      Final Board: 4 Q 7 9 5
      BB showed 4 4 and won $22.92 ($10.97 net)
      Hero mucked T T and lost (-$11.95 net)
  • 7 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Hi.

      Flop: You can consider checking flop. I think a call is fine vs the raise, as he is repping a really polarized range of 44/77 and backdoor draws or gutshots.

      Turn: Definitely a check

      River: I would fold here without reads. Against this overbet you should be defending around the top 40% of your range, and I think that would only be QX+.
    • pokerferrer
      pokerferrer
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.03.2008 Posts: 6,347
      15k hands. It is so easy to give him proper range on the flop with such sample. By default it is a pretty straight fold on the river.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Originally posted by pokerferrer
      15k hands. It is so easy to give him proper range on the flop with such sample. By default it is a pretty straight fold on the river.
      yep i agree with this actually, he's a nit over a huge sample and nits don't take this line as a bluff most of the time.
    • fotakis
      fotakis
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.11.2010 Posts: 88
      What type of players follow this line with polarized range?
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      Originally posted by fotakis
      What type of players follow this line with polarized range?
      I don't quite get this question. Could you rephrase it? I think that almost all players are going to be polarized on the River when they overbet here.

      Are you referring to the Flop or the River?
    • fotakis
      fotakis
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.11.2010 Posts: 88
      You said that I have a straight fold against a nit with such sample. This means that he bets ONLY with the nuts. So, he doesn't have a polarized range on the river.
      Anyway, if a nit overbets only with the nuts on the river, what type of players overbet as a bluff on the river?
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      ah ok, most players are polarized here meaning they either have air or the nuts and nothing in between. Since this guy is a nit, what i meant was that the bluff component of his river overbetting range would probably be extremely small, or even non-existent.\

      What type of player overbets the River as a bluff? Aggro monkeys who think you have a capped River range after you check back on the Turn.