[NL20-NL50] Call down like this?

    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      PKR, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
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      SB: $25.10 (100.4 bb) 29/18/1.1/6.1/35/433 Flop Cbet 59%, Turn Cbet 43% W$SD 37%
      Hero (BB): $27.06 (108.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 J
      SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.50) T 3 J (2 players)
      Hero checks, SB bets $1, Hero calls $1

      Turn: ($3.50) 9 (2 players)
      Hero checks, SB bets $2.30, Hero calls $2.30

      River: ($8.10) 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, SB bets $4.20, Hero calls $4.20
  • 7 replies
    • pokerferrer
      pokerferrer
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.03.2008 Posts: 6,347
      I think we have to call river, since he still can bluff or bet many Jacks.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      hi.

      You have 2 pairs in a HU match. I don't see how you can ever fold here. And some draws missed like AQ or X:sX, and also he could definitely value bet AJ/KJ here. Looks like a snap-call to me.

      Thanks.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      lol I meant to ask if I should just call down or raise at some point. Obviously I'm not folding.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      But raising would be me overvaluing my hand so maybe just call down.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      ok, i thought it was pretty obvious that you cannot raise for value as well :)

      When the river pairs the bottom card, you are now losing to QQ-AA as well.
    • maheepsangari
      maheepsangari
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2010 Posts: 2,163
      And no point throwing a small raise on the turn to get value from his OESDs and OESDs+pair?
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I think it's overplay on this 3rd straight card, even JT may be overplay. But this is HU so it could be fine.

      Why don't you equilate this spot for yourself and see how you are faring? Give him a range of hands which he is bet/calling the Turn with. If you do not have more than 60% equity, then you probably shouldn't have raised in the first place.

      What if villain shipped over your Turn raise? Are you stacking off or folding? I know I wouldn't be too thrilled with calling it off and raise/folding seems bad to me as well.