[NL20-NL50] JJ vs raise flop

    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      iPoker - £0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 195.6 BB (VPIP: 24.09, PFR: 19.71, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 139)
      UTG: 103.26 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
      CO: 101.22 BB (VPIP: 25.38, PFR: 22.05, 3Bet Preflop: 13.68, Hands: 272)
      Hero (BTN): 211.28 BB
      SB: 152.7 BB (VPIP: 25.49, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 103)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:spade: J:club:

      UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 5 BB

      Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) T:club: 6:diamond: 3:diamond:
      UTG checks, Hero bets 9 BB, UTG raises to 44.5 BB, Hero raises to 203.28 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 50.76 BB

      Turn: (208.02 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond:

      River: (208.02 BB, 2 players) 4:heart:

      UTG shows 8:heart: 8:spade: (One Pair, Eights) (Pre 19%, Flop 10%, Turn 14%)
      Hero shows J:spade: J:club: (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 81%, Flop 90%, Turn 86%)
      Hero wins 202.02 BB


      Hand before I 3bet him, he folded. Now I 3bet a bit smaller size, to induce 4bet light or call. I am not sure what to do after his huge raise?
      I dont think he would raise so much with set, but it could be Tx or QQ+, sometimes fd. I think I should be +EV when I shove, since draws are also calling.
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hey GK,

      How often do you think he 4bets QQ+ pre?

      The more you can exclude premium hands from his range the better it becomes to stack off. Dk about sets, not likely he raises them so big like you said. Your image also matters. I saw you posted some hands where you make quite interesting plays so your image might be good enough to get it in for value here with JJ.
    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Hey GK,

      How often do you think he 4bets QQ+ pre?

      The more you can exclude premium hands from his range the better it becomes to stack off. Dk about sets, not likely he raises them so big like you said. Your image also matters. I saw you posted some hands where you make quite interesting plays so your image might be good enough to get it in for value here with JJ.
      I am not sure how often he would do it, just 22 hands. I tried playing normal tables today instead of speed poker, because there are many more fish and reggs are much weaker, so I still dont know if people stack off QQ+. In speed games almost everyone stacks off QQ+ OOP especially.

      Is my image important here, when we have only 32 hands? What do you mean about my image, when you said that I played some hands interesting? That I was stacking off light?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      You should still have an idea.. it's the same site and same players moving to and from speed poker. If they do it on speed poker, they do it 80% of the time on normal tabs as well imo.

      By image I mean by how you are perceived by your opponents. You have played hands where you made light shoves, overbets and so on. That creates interesting reactions by your opponents. Ofc, you haven't done that against this specific guy in 32 hands but you probably still play that style and you need to know what he's seen in 32 hands with you.