[NL2-NL10] Call or raise or fold donk bet?

    • Edukator99
      Edukator99
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.07.2010 Posts: 240
      PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 66 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 60.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
      SB: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 88.89, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
      BB: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
      UTG: 115 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 6)
      UTG+1: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 8.61, PFR: 5.38, 3Bet Preflop: 1.18, Hands: 813)
      UTG+2: 98 BB (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 11.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 127)
      MP: 45.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
      Hero (MP+1): 158.5 BB
      CO: 112 BB (VPIP: 15.04, PFR: 6.77, 3Bet Preflop: 2.27, Hands: 133)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:club: K:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold

      Flop: (9 BB, 2 players) K:spade: 6:heart: A:heart:
      SB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

      Turn: (17 BB, 2 players) 3:club:
      SB bets 5 BB, fold

      SB wins 16.5 BB

      Really didn't know what to do here. The villain is unknown. Why does he be there?

      I immediately assumed he had an Ace but thought there might be a possibility he had a K with a lower kicker...

      I called with the intention of betting if he checked the next street as I thought I might have caught a bluff if he did.

      He bet so I felt I had to fold.

      I actually thought about raising...but I thought that would be really risky. I hope he'd fold a flush draw or a king.

      Or is better just to fold here?

      I really don't like donk bets lol.
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi,

      KQ is a medium strength hand. Raising achieves nothing - He calls with all better hands (AX or better) and mostly folds out worse hands like bottom pair or QJ.

      The turn is definitely a call. I still think he could have some worse KX hands, some draws, and some random air. Even if he does have an Ace, we may have 5 outs to improve to two pairs or trips.

      River would be interesting if he does lead again. On a blank river I would fold to a half pot bet or more, and probably calling another small 1/3 pot bet or less. On a draw completing card like the flush card I think folding is best.

      Thanks.
    • Edukator99
      Edukator99
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.07.2010 Posts: 240
      Just a wondering why it's definitly a call? Is it because the bet is so mall we're getting good odds?
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      yes, and even vs a half pot bet on the Turn I think you can still call again. It's mostly a pot odds vs pot equity type of issue. Vs a half pot bet you are being offered 25% pot odds and I think you definitely have 30%+ equity here vs a range of some AX, KX, straight draws and flush draws.

      When he bets 5 into 17, you are getting odds of 5 / 27 = 18.5% so folding is actually a really big mistake here when your equity is around 30-35%.