[NL2-NL10] Raised on flop with KK overpair

    • Edukator99
      Edukator99
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      Joined: 18.07.2010 Posts: 240
      PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 131.5 BB (VPIP: 6.92, PFR: 5.02, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 260)
      SB: 141.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
      BB: 50 BB (VPIP: 7.41, PFR: 3.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
      Hero (UTG): 108 BB
      UTG+1: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 8.40, PFR: 6.72, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 121)
      UTG+2: 125.5 BB (VPIP: 10.69, PFR: 9.16, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 132)
      MP: 140.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
      MP+1: 43 BB (VPIP: 9.41, PFR: 5.94, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 206)
      CO: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:diamond: K:club:

      Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 4 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 4 BB, fold, fold

      Flop: (13.5 BB, 3 players) 6:spade: J:diamond: 8:diamond:
      Hero bets 10 BB, MP raises to 30 BB, fold, Hero raises to 104 BB and is all-in, MP calls 74 BB

      I have 200 hands on the villain and he's only calling 3% of the time so when he raised me was pretty worried about a set. I thought he'd be pretty likely call preflop with JJ, 88, or 66. I almost folded but thought he might have Jx.

      I went all in because I figured if I reraise he just goes all in. It was either all in or fold.

      Right play?
  • 5 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Edukator,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: The stats show only 3 hands. 200 hands is for the BTN.

      Or did you mix up the stats by any chance?
    • Edukator99
      Edukator99
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      Joined: 18.07.2010 Posts: 240
      Oh, oops sorry. I guess that eliminates what I thought I was thinking at the time. LOL.

      Ok, he's unknown. I'm still pretty nervous about sets there but now Jx is far more likely.

      Basically, any time I get raised like that, especially if I'm in early position which means I should have a very strong hand, by someone who has called in, I'm very wary of sets.

      Sooo.... is the play I made correct?

      :)
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by Edukator99
      Oh, oops sorry. I guess that eliminates what I thought I was thinking at the time. LOL.

      Ok, he's unknown. I'm still pretty nervous about sets there but now Jx is far more likely.

      Basically, any time I get raised like that, especially if I'm in early position which means I should have a very strong hand, by someone who has called in, I'm very wary of sets.

      Sooo.... is the play I made correct?

      :)
      If it was against the other guy folding would be a good option.

      Against unknown it's closer but I think that unless we think he is a fish (and we have no reason to think that) we should consider folding as well. He is raising big on a wet board 3-way so I doubt he raises much weaker often. But if you do continue shoving is the best play.
    • Edukator99
      Edukator99
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      Ok. Thanks.

      Turns out he had KJ. And he hit a J on the river to suck out on me big time!

      Anyway, the result doesn't matter, it's the question of what would bet best most of the time...
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by Edukator99
      Ok. Thanks.

      Turns out he had KJ. And he hit a J on the river to suck out on me big time!

      Anyway, the result doesn't matter, it's the question of what would bet best most of the time...
      Tough result.

      If villain is capable of raising Jx we have to go with such hands every time. In fact we would go with AJ+