[NL20-NL50] NL50 9max: KQ on QJT flop

    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,144
      Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
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      MP1: $48.10
      MP2: $11.15
      Kruppe (CO): $64.30
      BTN: $50
      SB: $74.85
      BB: $23.70
      UTG: $10
      UTG+1: $48.50
      UTG+2: $44.70

      Pre-Flop: Q:diamond: K:spade: dealt to Kruppe (CO)
      5 folds, Kruppe raises to $2, BTN calls $2, 2 folds

      Flop: ($4.75) J:club: T:heart: Q:spade: (2 Players)
      Kruppe bets $3.50, BTN raises to $11, Kruppe calls $7.50

      Turn: ($26.75) J:club: T:heart: Q:spade: [ 9:spade: ] (2 Players)
      Kruppe checks, BTN checks

      River: ($26.75) J:club: T:heart: Q:spade: 9:spade: [ 5:spade: ] (2 Players)
      Kruppe bets $14, BTN raises to $37 and is All-In, Kruppe calls $23
  • 5 replies
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      WP IMO.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Don´t really like your bet/call. Board is very coordinated and oppoennt could hold already straight with 9K and maybe even AK.
      So I just let it go. Even if you hit your straight you´re often splitting and if you should hit your Q or K, are you able to c/f turn?
      As played: bet out on the turn. No need to give free cards for set or two pair and he won´t bet turn unless he has K.
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,144
      So if I bet/call flop I have to C/F turn if turn is a Q?
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      Hi Kruppe.

      Forget I ever said "WP IMO", I was probably drunk. :D

      I'm really not worried about AK (would probably 3-bet PF) or K9 (possible but unlikely IMO, 98 is more likely) on that board, I believe most often villain has a strong hand here wich he's trying to protect, probably two pair or a set, AQ is also possible. So, IMO, you often have 8 clean outs to your straight, but there are a few problems.

      If you hit your straight on the turn, the board will be too scary to extract anything more from villain.
      You're OOP, and that makes it even harder to extract more value.
      If a K or a Q falls on the turn, you may get yourself in a tough spot. A King gives you top two, but any A or 9 beats you. And a Q gives you trips but, if he had a set, it's no help for you, if he had two pair you're often ahead, but not always, in the few times he actually has flopped a straight, he still has you and will not lay down his straight on a paired board.

      So, as Kaitz said, it's better to let it go, and bet out turn as played.

      If the turn is a Q, I think you should let trips go.
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,144
      thanks