[NL20-NL50] JJ vs sqeeze aggro

    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      iPoker - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 99 BB (VPIP: 22.51, PFR: 17.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.84, Hands: 1,221)
      Hero (UTG): 194.9 BB
      CO: 135.78 BB (VPIP: 87.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 8)
      BTN: 11.52 BB (VPIP: 36.08, PFR: 5.06, 3Bet Preflop: 1.18, Hands: 162)
      SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.17, PFR: 18.25, 3Bet Preflop: 6.81, Hands: 2,043)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:club: J:heart:

      Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB raises to 19 BB, fold, Hero raises to 36 BB, fold, BTN calls 8.52 BB, SB raises to 100 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 64 BB

      Flop: (215.52 BB, 3 players) 8:spade: K:diamond: 9:club:

      Turn: (215.52 BB, 3 players) Q:club:

      River: (215.52 BB, 3 players) 6:spade:

      Hero shows J:club: J:heart: (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 68%, Flop 81%, Turn 90%)
      BTN shows 4:diamond: 4:club: (One Pair, Fours) (Pre 14%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
      SB shows 5:club: 5:diamond: (One Pair, Fives) (Pre 18%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
      Hero wins 209.52 BB


      What range would you 4bet/call here? I am doing this by default vs aggro 3better with JJ+, AK. Would it be ok 88+, AK because his sizing looks as AK? Is it too weak assumption?
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      Preflop: About the size, his squeeze is almost as big as a 4bet. Jamming directly could be an option. I suppose click-it-back 4bet is also fine but it should be the very smallest 4bet and not 2X which is too large IMO.

      Just stick to JJ+/AK by default. He is a 21/18/7 player, he doesn't seem too crazy and you are usually flipping with TT vs stuff like AJ/KQ/AQ.

      Im really surprised to see 55 here, I think it's a terrible play. With so many players in the hand he's definitely better off set-mining in a 4way pot.
    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
      Black
      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,530
      Originally posted by mbml
      Hi.

      Preflop: About the size, his squeeze is almost as big as a 4bet. Jamming directly could be an option. I suppose click-it-back 4bet is also fine but it should be the very smallest 4bet and not 2X which is too large IMO.

      Just stick to JJ+/AK by default. He is a 21/18/7 player, he doesn't seem too crazy and you are usually flipping with TT vs stuff like AJ/KQ/AQ.

      Im really surprised to see 55 here, I think it's a terrible play. With so many players in the hand he's definitely better off set-mining in a 4way pot.
      I think it was not possilble to 4bet smaller than 2x. Is it dependend on poker site (fishy question :) ).

      I prefer allways to 4bet or 5bet min, because when I shove he can hardly call with so weak hand, and this way he can go all in and not pay attention that I am comitted.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I'm not sure if this is how you calculate it.
      3->19, you have to call 16 more, and then you can raise 16 on top, so the min size is 19 + 19 + 3 = 35. I could be wrong though.

      As a general guideline I would usually push directly vs 4bets 20bb or larger, and maybe min5bet or call a lot vs 4bets which are smaller than 20bb.