[NL20-NL50] Jacks on Ace-high board. Thin value?

    • pokerferrer
      pokerferrer
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      The same fish as here. I don't remember which hand was earlier.

      Should we go for thin value on the river? Or mb bet turn more?
      Ace on the river reduces his Ace-type hands. So here he has either weak showdown value or missed random draw.

      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
      SB ($19.33)
      BB ($25)
      UTG ($22.44)
      UTG+1 ($27.57)
      CO ($29.22)
      Hero ($42.22)

      Dealt to Hero J:diamond: J:spade:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.50, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.25

      FLOP ($3.85) 6:spade: 5:spade: A:spade:

      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.25, UTG+1 calls $2.25

      TURN ($8.35) 6:spade: 5:spade: A:spade: T:diamond:

      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.75, UTG+1 calls $3.75

      RIVER ($15.85) 6:spade: 5:spade: A:spade: T:diamond: A:heart:

      UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

      UTG+1 shows 6:club: K:club:
      (Pre 32%, Flop 13.1%, Turn 9.1%)

      Hero shows J:diamond: J:spade:
      (Pre 68%, Flop 86.9%, Turn 90.9%)

      Hero wins $15.14
  • 3 replies
    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
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      how wide have you seen him call on the river? 4th pair? A high? i dont see that many hands that can call a river bet thats worse than ours and Ax is very much in his or/call range in UTG so i prefer a check back on river.

      if board was more connected and there was no A on board i could think of a 3 street value bet with 2nd pair. maybe on a board like 369 TK
    • pokerferrer
      pokerferrer
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      And what about the turn? Sizing, or mb checking?
    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
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      i would expect him to call any draw on the turn and us to be ahead. we have an ok hand, ahead most of the time and protected against weaker flush draws with our J :spade: .

      if i had AJ here i would bet 7-8 for value, if i had A2 probably 6, so i think with JJ we can look at 4-5