[NL20-NL50] NL50 SH - KK: overpair vs fish

    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Gold
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,135
      SB: 35/9
      385 fold vs cbet 3bet pot
      6k hands

      UTG: 39/12
      2.3 af
      12% OR UTG
      38% fold vs 3bet
      1.9 4bet range
      49% fold vs cbet 3bet pot
      10% donkbet
      57% fold donkbet vs raise (14)
      29% wtsd
      5.5k hands


      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      BTN: $52.75 (105.5 bb)
      SB: $61.83 (123.7 bb)
      BB: $62.96 (125.9 bb)
      UTG: $54.59 (109.2 bb)
      MP: $36.73 (73.5 bb)
      Hero (CO): $50 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
      UTG raises to $1.50, MP folds, Hero raises to $5.50, BTN folds, SB calls $5.25, BB folds, UTG calls $4

      Flop: ($17) 2 7 7 (3 players)
      SB checks, UTG bets $4, Hero?
  • 5 replies
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,888
      seems like an easy raise really, FML if we get 3bet but i don't think we can fold.

      if you are thinking of keeping sb in - he just won't fold whatever he doesn't want to anyway.
      on the other hand giving a super good price to hearts and letting some scarecards (for their ranges) hit would be a clear mistake.
    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Gold
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,135
      Size?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,908
      Hey L,

      When UTG raises 12% only there, he won't have almost any 7x hands after also calling the 3bet so most of the time he has an overpair. It's a 3bet pot where he is likely having an overpair and you have a better overpair 99% of the time. He doesn't like folding. Definitely can value raise here and not fold imo.

      Let's add SB into the mix now. He doesn't fold that much to a cbet in a 3bet pot but he probably also has more hands like 7x, A high, flushdraws. Definitely more than you and UTG. I think against him you can get called by worse if you raise but won't get 3bet by a range that you beat so:

      - raise/call vs UTG
      - raise/fold vs SB.

      If you get called, ship good turns, which are plenty. :)

      LE: Sizing wise, 10-11 is enough for you to ship turn.
    • Lunitis
      Lunitis
      Gold
      Joined: 22.02.2009 Posts: 20,135
      I raised to 11, UTG call. I shove the turn 33 into 39 in a 8 :heart: , he fold and show TT :heart: .
      I was a bit surprised that he fold that there. Guess i got a bit results oriented and came to pst this thinking that maybe my raise on the flop was too small. I guess if i shove turn something under 30 on a pot over 40 it would be much harder for him to food that.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,908
      I think your sizing was fine... possible that if you give him better odds he calls but at the same time, he only folded because the flush there probably. It's unlikely he folds otherwise.

      If not for SB, this is actually one of th ebest spots to just ship flop vs him since we can pin point his range so well, know we are ahead by quite a bit and he is not folding.