[NL2-NL10] Calling AQs in position against loose raiser

    • SecurityDrew
      SecurityDrew
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.05.2008 Posts: 78
      Leo

      Was getting tired of throwing away those suited AQ hands in LP against loose raisers. Here are a couple of sample hands. Any comments on the EV for this move? If I look at Xarrys charts, AQs is +EV against anyone looser than 10%. This play of course depends on possible post flop play so I am cautious where I do not hit the flop.


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $113.51
      MP3:
      $30.90
      Hero:
      $19.00

      0.5/1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with A:club: , Q:club:

      I realize the stats are useless against MP2 with 4 hands, but he had played almost every hand since joining the table so he was either on a great card rush or pretty loose.
      4 folds, MP3 raises to $3.00, CO folds, Hero calls $3.00, SB folds, BB calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($9.50) J:diamond: , T:heart: , A:diamond: (3 players)
      BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $6.00, 2 folds.

      Final Pot: $15.50

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of aces (Ac Qc)

      Hero wins with a pair of aces (Ac Qc)

      Took the initiative on the flop as both players checked.


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      UTG+2:
      $101.85
      MP2:
      $60.00
      Hero:
      $21.30

      0.5/1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with A:heart: , Q:heart: . MP2 posts a blind of $1.00.
      UTG+2 calls $1.00, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $3.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.00, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($10.50) 5:heart: , Q:diamond: , 8:spade: (3 players)
      UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets $7.50, Hero raises to $18.30 (All-In), UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls $10.80.

      Turn: ($47.10) A:club:
      River: ($47.10) 3:heart:


      Final Pot: $47.10

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, aces and queens (Ah Qh)
      MP2 shows a pair of eights (8h 6h)

      Hero wins with two pairs, aces and queens (Ah Qh)

      Standard SSS play postflop

      Stats over 4 hands are not very usefull, but he was playing every hand (hindsight is always 20/20).
  • 3 replies
    • shloogy
      shloogy
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.04.2008 Posts: 263
      2nd hand played terribly wrong.never call pre flop AQ, what do u expect to see on flop? by reraise him pre flop u can sometimes make him fold,and play bigger pot when hit.calling pf playing sss is really bad
    • 098799
      098799
      Silver
      Joined: 23.07.2007 Posts: 1,245
      Well, I might be a bit mentally limited, but I think I need explaination: why did you call instead of push? If you think AQs is ok to play against such guy (and yes, we do not have strict 3bet range, we should adjust), simply shove it. Calling is, well, well, so not-sss-like it just hurts :) .
    • xylere
      xylere
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      adjust your 3bet range, if there are reasons for that...
      you are burning your money :)

      The fact that the hand has more then 50% equity against a given range, doesn't mean that its +EV to call.
      Simply because you will have to throw it away postflop a lot.
      And well, with a short stack calling PFR is hardly +EV