[NL20-NL50] Jj Oop

    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Known players:
      CO:
      $28.85
      BU:
      $27.15
      SB:
      $33.18
      BB:
      $26.34
      MP3 (Hero):
      $25.35

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J, J.
      Hero raises to $0.75, CO raises to $2.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.75.

      Flop: ($5.35) Q, 8, J (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $4.50, Hero raises to $9.00, CO raises to $26.35, Hero calls $13.85.

      Turn: ($54.55) K (2 players)

      River: ($54.55) 3 (2 players)

      Final Pot: $54.55.

      107 hands   vpip38 pfr12 wtsd39 3BET 11.1 3BET  against EP 22.2             


      should I 4bet or call preflop?
  • 5 replies
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
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      Hey Daisuke3823,

      You don't want to 4bet here, will not be profitable MPvsCO at these stakes.

      Unless villain is 3betting wide from the CO (which he probably isn't) you don't even want to flat here because you will be behind his range and don't have the odds to setmine.

      Postflop is fine.
    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      if I am CO and BU reraised me,what should I do? BU 300 hands,3bet against CO 10
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
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      Originally posted by daisuke3823
      if I am CO and BU reraised me,what should I do? BU 300 hands,3bet against CO 10
      Ideally you'd love to have only a 4bet or fold range. It's often possible at higher stakes although sometimes not practical at 25nl. This is because while opponents 3bet light, they don't often 5bet light, so you are essentially bluffing with JJ if you 4bet.

      This leaves flatting OOP, which is not a great option, but the best there is. Your plan should be to float most flops OOP, even on boards with an overcards. Vs 2nd barrel you can fold against most opponents. After turn goes check-check you then make a decision between thin-value or bluff-catching or check-fold.
    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      how about calling OOP and call to his flop CB and then donk on the turn ? its bad play?
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
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      Originally posted by daisuke3823
      how about calling OOP and call to his flop CB and then donk on the turn ? its bad play?
      It's not a very common line. That's not to say it's inherently bad. The majority of players are just checking their entire range on the turn in this spot.

      Donking usually reps a lot of strength - it's the line a weak player will take with their turned value hands. So the question is whether you really want to rep strength when you hold JJ. Depends on the board and villain - in most cases probably not, better to use your hand as a bluff-catcher.

      I'm talking generally though COvsBU I'm not referring to your particular hand/board here.