[NL2-NL10] NL10 SH, KQo 3-way

    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
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      Joined: 12.06.2008 Posts: 999
      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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      6 Players
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      Stacks:
      HERO (UTG) ($10) 100bb
      UTG+1 ($12.71) 127bb 79/21, AF: 3.3, 30h
      CO ($21.50) 215bb
      BTN ($5.99) 60bb 52/3, AF: 0.5, 30h
      SB ($10) 100bb
      BB ($3.90) 39bb

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) HERO is UTG K:club: Q:spade:
      HERO raises to $0.30, UTG+1 calls $0.30, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

      Flop: K:diamond: 6:heart: 5:diamond: ($1.25, 4 players)
      BB checks, HERO bets $0.80, UTG+1 calls $0.80, BTN calls $0.80, BB folds

      Turn: 7:heart: ($3.65, 3 players)
      HERO bets $1.90, UTG+1 calls $1.90, BTN calls $1.90

      River: 10:diamond: ($9.35, 3 players)
      HERO checks, UTG+1 goes all-in $9.71, BTN folds, HERO folds

      PRE
      Usually I don`t open KQo from UTG, but this time around there were a lot o fishes.

      FLOP
      Good flop for me, should bet more, like a buck.

      TURN
      Not the best card, but there`s still value.

      RIVER
      Flush got there, don`t really have any choice here but c/f.
  • 8 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Hi.

      Preflop: I almost always open KQo unless the table conditions are terrible (0 fishes, hyper aggro players behind me). I think that's not going to be the case 99% of the time at NL10.

      Flop and Turn play are both fine. IF the river is a blank card like 2 I would shove for value. Remember that KQ is really strong vs these two fishes' wide ranges.

      River: Check fold is best here, i'm pretty sure one of them has the flush.

      Thanks.
    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
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      Joined: 12.06.2008 Posts: 999
      Hi!


      Yes, I for sure would shove blank river.
      Do you think, I`m missing out on lot of value for not opening KQo, AJo from UTG?
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I think its good to open those by default at lower limits cos people just call with way too many worse hands.if u only open 10% of starting hands or less it makes it rly easy to play against your utg range.
    • dienaszaglis
      dienaszaglis
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      Joined: 12.06.2008 Posts: 999
      Now it`s 12%

      What do you think about this UTG range?

      22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, AJo+, KQo

      Should I include more suited Ax?
    • ABShortland
      ABShortland
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      Joined: 21.11.2008 Posts: 281
      Originally posted by mbml

      IF the river is a blank card like 2 I would shove for value. Remember that KQ is really strong vs these two fishes' wide ranges.
      I'm not so sure shoving a blank river for value is a good idea, what hands do you expect to get value from? .. I think if we shove most of the time only better hands call us and everything worse folds

      or maybe i'm thinking wrong?

      EDIT: We've only invested $3 aswell so shoving for $7 seems like we are overplaying the value of KQ
    • GreenPiece
      GreenPiece
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      Joined: 03.06.2010 Posts: 5,962
      Originally posted by ABShortland
      I'm not so sure shoving a blank river for value is a good idea, what hands do you expect to get value from? .. I think if we shove most of the time only better hands call us and everything worse folds
      The pot is huge, we definitely have a value bet vs worse kings and mayhap stuff like 88-JJ (guys are fishy, pot is huge, what a pity to let their hands go) and seeing how we have less than pot left we're gonna to invest more than half stack anyway with value bet, so we're pot committed and we have nothing to do but to shove here for maximum value. Plus with better hands we'd probably get action somewhere before the river.
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Originally posted by dienaszaglis
      Now it`s 12%

      What do you think about this UTG range?

      22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, AJo+, KQo

      Should I include more suited Ax?
      Yeah i usually open all AXs hands but its not a big deal to fold them. A2s-A5s is better than A6s/A7s against tight ranges cos you can flop gutshots and the kickers arent as important.
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Originally posted by ABShortland
      Originally posted by mbml

      IF the river is a blank card like 2 I would shove for value. Remember that KQ is really strong vs these two fishes' wide ranges.
      I'm not so sure shoving a blank river for value is a good idea, what hands do you expect to get value from? .. I think if we shove most of the time only better hands call us and everything worse folds

      or maybe i'm thinking wrong?

      EDIT: We've only invested $3 aswell so shoving for $7 seems like we are overplaying the value of KQ
      Amt invested is irrelevant. Only thing that matters is pot size and whether we have value in a bet or not.
      I think kq is beating way more worse hands (KX), AK probably 3bets preflop a lot and sets or twopairs usually raise flop or turn.