[NL2-NL10] NL10 A7s failed 4bet bluff. FD on flop

    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      BTN: $11.63 (116.3 bb)
      Hero (SB): $10.05 (100.5 bb)
      BB: $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $16.68 (166.8 bb)
      MP: $10.23 (102.3 bb)
      CO: $2.61 (26.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 A
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.10, BB calls $1.20

      Flop: ($4.20) K 5 J (2 players)
      Hero ??

      I'm not sure exactly what villain called with. Definitely some slowplayed AA,KK. Maybe hands like AKs, AQs even. QQ and JJ too. I think best play here is to just overbet shove to get AQ, maybe QQ to fold, and realise our equity vs AK, AA, KK, JJ.

      Should I have 4bet slightly bigger too?
  • 3 replies
    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
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      How wide is he 3betting bb vs sb? Maybe you can share his general stats and 3betstat.

      He could be calling wider like QJ KJ we don't know, I don't like overshoving because it looks weak and represents exactly what we have which is a flush draw and I expect hands like top pair or middle pair or stronger to call. I prefer bet/sshoving because it gives him a chance to raise crap and possibly raise some stronger hands and fold them for example he raises KT and then decides he isn't good against a shove and folds or he raises flush draws and gets it in. If you have shoved the flush draw might have folded.

      The 4bet size looks fine. I'll make it around 2.2x his size being oop
    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      I didn't have any 3bet stats on him. But he has reggy stats after a 50 hand sample (not a nit). People in general at NL10 zoom 3b bb vs sb quite alot (probably 10-15% from my experience) and I think a 4bet bluff would work very often here (with the A blocker).

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $11.63 (116.3 bb)
      Hero (SB): $10.05 (100.5 bb)
      BB: $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $16.68 (166.8 bb)
      MP: $10.23 (102.3 bb)
      CO: $2.61 (26.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 A
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.10, BB calls $1.20

      Flop: ($4.20) K 5 J (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks

      Turn: ($4.20) 9 (2 players)
      Hero ??

      As played, I went for check/shove, but villain checked behind. Do we stab here? Or continue playing passively?
    • cutegoldfish
      cutegoldfish
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      I don't recall them 3betting that wide at nl10 but that was 2 years ago. If you have reason to believe he had more than 10-15% in his 3betting range then I think 4bet bluffing A7s is decent. Otherwise I would just fold it.

      What do you think he checked on the flop? I'm thinking it's not Kx, unlikely to be slow played hands, maybe QQ Jx TT 99 weak hands. I don't think they are folding to a standard sized bet, nor are they folding to a check raise if they decide to bet. Why not try a over bet? Something like 7 dollars? They could interprets that as very strong and be convinced to fold 2nd pair or weaker hands. Of course we are notfolding at any ttime.