[NL2-NL10] [SH] Set BBvCO

    • GreenPiece
      GreenPiece
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      Joined: 03.06.2010 Posts: 5,962
      PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

      Opponents unknown

      BTN: 154.5 BB
      SB: 94 BB
      Hero (BB): 106.5 BB
      UTG: 192.5 BB
      MP: 68 BB
      CO: 202.5 BB

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:heart: 8:diamond:

      fold, fold, CO raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4 BB

      Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 4:club: 2:spade: 8:club:
      Hero checks, CO bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 18.5 BB, CO calls 13.5 BB

      Turn: (47.5 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:
      Hero bets 30 BB, CO calls 30 BB

      River: (107.5 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:
      Hero bets 53 BB and is all-in, CO calls 53 BB

      I've been testing new PT4 and played on NL2 instead of my usual for now NL10, and this hand occurred.
      Could this one be played in a different way?
  • 4 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi GreenPiece,

      Preflop: looks fine

      Postflop: Other than betting bigger on the turn I can't see what else you can do.

      Well played.
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,888
      against unknown i prefer folding pre to the 5bb open as without info it'll be super hard to approach any board where we don't hit a set postflop. :P

      after the pre call play seems pretty standard, the 5bb open most often than not will mean a strong range so just get the money in as fast as possible. :f_biggrin:
    • GreenPiece
      GreenPiece
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      Joined: 03.06.2010 Posts: 5,962
      Thank you guys! My question was a bit result-oriented... Opp showed T :club: 6 :club: (and yes Tomaloc, I also thought his 5BB is strong so I relied on him having JJ-AA :) ) and I decided to think about different bet sizings or whatever and couldn't invent smth very different. I can bet bigger on the turn, say 35BB but then we have 28BB and the pot is 117.5BB so it's a bit more in ratios if to compare with turn and we're pot committed. That's why I decided to go for a smaller bet.

      Btw, wanted to ask. What being pot committed means, how much do we have behind in this case? In this sample I'm shoving any river for value.

      And in this one I can't fold neither:

      Hero (BTN): 119.5 BB
      SB: 105 BB

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:diamond: A:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 7 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB

      Flop: (15 BB, 2 players) 2:club: Q:club: 9:heart:
      SB bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

      Turn: (33 BB, 2 players) 7:heart:
      SB bets 19 BB, Hero raises to 47.5 BB, SB calls 28.5 BB

      River: (128 BB, 2 players) T:club:
      SB bets 41.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 41.5 BB

      Can we somehow change bet sizings or is it normal?
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      In my books you are pot committed when you can't fold anymore given how much money is left and his potential range.

      In that case you have to think about his range.

      Do you beat anything on the river? Can you see worse hands in his range?

      If so then you are close to pot committed given the odds you get.