[NL20-NL50] NL50 SH: AK on Axx flop vs maniac

    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
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      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
      5 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($49.25)
      Hero ($49.50)
      BTN ($17.95) 48/9/1
      SB ($83.95) 70/45/15 over 20 hands, saw him do weird stuff already, real maniac.
      BB ($119.03)

      Pre-flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is CO K: A:
      1 fold, Hero raises to $2, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold

      Flop: T: A: :7d: ($6.50, 3 players)
      SB bets $4, Hero calls $4, 1 fold

      Turn: J: ($14.50, 2 players)
      SB bets $11.50, Hero calls $11.50

      River: J: ($37.50, 2 players)
      SB bets $25, Hero??? (32 behind)

      River action? Shove or fold?
  • 5 replies
    • TimothyVdp1
      TimothyVdp1
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      Joined: 11.12.2007 Posts: 5,820
      raise flop and get it in ASAP, tons of draws possible and if u check call he might have one without u knowing...
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I also like re-raising flop and getting it all-in against maniac.
      As played: I´d call river. No reason to shove, since you might not be ahead.
    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
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      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      When I reraise flop, he'll problably reraise me allin if he hit by any means. Could be draws/sets/2p/ax. This would put me in an akward situation. Good chance I'm way behind, and if I'm ahead he would have tons of outs. Decided he would play a draw differently oop against 2, so basically put him on Ax or Tx.

      @ Kaits, why only call at river ( 25 of my resting 32 stack), if i decided to see a showdown shoving for 7$ more cant be wrong right?


      Irrelevant that villain had TJ .. you would actually think river helped me right? counterfeiting flopped 2p.
    • kukac26
      kukac26
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      Joined: 02.11.2007 Posts: 126
      7$ not lost is just as good as 7$ won.. it may not seem a lot.. but it adds up fast


      Against a maniac I'd play just like you did.. if he had TJ you had some serious bad luck going on there.

      The proper play would be re-raising and getting all-in on the flop (he probably wouldn't call your re-raise, hindsight is 20-20).
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Diedobal
      When I reraise flop, he'll problably reraise me allin if he hit by any means. Could be draws/sets/2p/ax. This would put me in an akward situation. Good chance I'm way behind, and if I'm ahead he would have tons of outs. Decided he would play a draw differently oop against 2, so basically put him on Ax or Tx.

      @ Kaits, why only call at river ( 25 of my resting 32 stack), if i decided to see a showdown shoving for 7$ more cant be wrong right?


      Irrelevant that villain had TJ .. you would actually think river helped me right? counterfeiting flopped 2p.
      Why you want to give him free cards, if you know that he could put you all-in with worse hands.
      There are two different situations:
      one is calling a bet and other is shoving
      if you call you get 2,5:1 odds, which means that you have to be ahead 29%.
      if you shove then you always have to be ahead 50% and I´m not sure that you´re always ahead here 50%.