[NL20-NL50] 58s,.

    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Known players:
      BU:
      $23.70
      SB:
      $11.56
      BB:
      $25.00
      MP2:
      $24.25
      MP3:
      $19.81
      CO (Hero):
      $26.59

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 5, 8.
      MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, BU folds, SB calls $0.15, BB checks.

      Flop: ($1) 5, 8, 3 (4 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, MP3 bets $0.75, Hero raises to $3.00, SB folds, BB raises to $6.51, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $26.34, BB calls $18.24.

      Turn: ($52.84) 9 (2 players)

      River: ($52.84) 9 (2 players)

      Final Pot: $52.84.

      168 hands  vpip22 pfr16 wtsd24 flop AGG44 turn  46 river 30   raise flop CB0  


      broke is okey?
  • 8 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hey Daisuke,

      Preflop I would raise or fold. I think limping this behind in CO won't be good. Postflop, after you flop top2 it's hard to get awa when BB can ofc have worse 2pair and combo draws, possible 99 as well. I think stack off is OK but keep in mind you don't have the nuts so you also lose often but are +EV overall.
    • schiyza
      schiyza
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      Hey there,
      why did you limp this hand preflop? Imo this is burning money ;)

      Postflop I dont expect overpairs (should be raised preflop) or draw (unless I see him play draw this very agressive way).
      It means, he has either bluf, or made hand - I dont think, that this kind of player will leveling himself to spewy spot and stackoff something like A8, or pure blaf (for example KQ, KJ ...).
      Imo this is strong made hand, and eventhough we block some set combos, i expect just sets here and for me it is clear fold to his 3b OTF.
    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      if its 83 or 35 2 pair hands,can I go broke?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Checkie checkie vs 2pair and sets.


      Board: 8:spade: 5:heart: 3:heart:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    62.97%  52.93%  10.04% { 8c5c }
      MP3    37.03%  26.98%  10.04% { 88, 55, 33, 85s, 83s, 53s, 85o, 83o, 53o }
    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      I need 24 % equity.
      and agianst 88,55,33,85,53, I have 63% with 85s,85o.
      and 83s,83o is 40%.
      and 53s,53o is 15%.
      so I think only 53 I have to fold?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Yes, usually bottom 2pair should not stack off but then you can also just change your line on the flop to keep the pot smaller.
    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
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      call and pot control?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
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      Originally posted by daisuke3823
      call and pot control?
      Depends a bit who has those 2pair but you should not show up with that those hands in a limped pot unless you are BB so the you can sometimes include overplayed QQ+ in their limping range that failed to limp/3bet so they become a stack off again. It's always relative to their range and even here you got involved unprofitably by limping behind in CO imo so there's no way you should have a weaker hand in this same spot.