bad beats or very good second hand

    • DAIMA2
      DAIMA2
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      Joined: 12.04.2011 Posts: 43
      hello
      i understand the bad beats or the very very good second hand but to loose at 5 different continiously sit and gos with bad beats or very good second hands i dont understand
      so
      turnament735328192 hand 98836405092 turn q3kj with 2 clubs i had kj opponent a club and a both all in river club i loose
      t 735327584 h 98836462762 pf i and opponent all in i had a9s opponent k9 i loose
      t 735326869 h 98836542226 flop j109 i had k10 opponent q7 both all in i loose
      t7353228751 h 98835818369 q210j2 i had a2 opponent qq i loose a lot
      t 735315668 h 98835557240 even worse 29474 i had 47 opponent 99 i loose a lot
      and ofcourse at the 2 tables a lot lot hands that i was a lot better pf and i loose
      what happens? is this possible to happen at about 2 hours all
      dimitris
  • 10 replies
    • DAIMA2
      DAIMA2
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      Joined: 12.04.2011 Posts: 43
      note that the first 3 tables are sit and go no limit 50-50 and the 2 last fixed limit heads up sit and go
    • luizsilveira
      luizsilveira
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      Joined: 27.11.2010 Posts: 2,320
      Originally posted by DAIMA2
      is this possible to happen at about 2 hours all
      Yes. And it gets worse. That's the game, and if you want to play it better like it.

      Yesterday I was playing a live tournament. Reshoved some 16BB with KJs and got called by QQ. A King on the flop and I doubled up. A few orbits later, a SB with some 8BB shoves a 32s and the same guy on the BB calls with QQ again! 32s makes a flush and guy is busto. Quite standard.

      You are talking about 2 hours. "Unlucky" stretches of 10 thousand, 20 thousand, or even 50 thousand hands or more and not that uncommon amongst people who play a lot. The good thing is: the other side also exist. Those magic 3 hours in which all bluffs work, all your AA get called by AK, and even when your KK gets called by AA a K comes! Those days are awesome.

      Only thing to do is: keep playing, keep improving, keep enjoying the game as it is. Don't be results oriented, results really don't matter.
    • luizsilveira
      luizsilveira
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      Check this one out for example. Getting two-outed on the river is not that uncommon either.
    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      5 in a row? You haven't seen the worst :D
    • c0wking
      c0wking
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      Joined: 02.12.2010 Posts: 109
      I've had nothing but bad beats ever since moving to stars.

      Something like 20k hands and counting. Just now I lost three stacks in zoom NL10 in about 10 minutes. It's called jokerstars for a reason. Lost all faíth in eventually moving up limits, it's just never-ending rake slave grind at NL10 for all eternity. It's like stars is rigged to screw you over every time you win a stack or two until your net profit is 0$.



      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Q:club: Q:spade:

      fold, fold, CO raises to $0.30, fold, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.40, fold, SB calls $1.10

      Flop: ($3.10, 2 players) 3:spade: T:diamond: 9:spade:
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.20, SB calls $2.20

      Turn: ($7.50, 2 players) 7:diamond:
      SB checks, Hero bets $4.00, SB raises to $9.37 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.37

      River: ($26.24, 2 players) 2:diamond:

      SB shows 9:diamond: J:diamond: (Flush, Jack High) (Pre 19%, Flop 23%, Turn 39%)
      Hero shows Q:club: Q:spade: (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 81%, Flop 77%, Turn 61%)
      SB wins $25.06


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      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A:spade: A:club:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.10, BB calls $1.00, fold

      Flop: ($2.50, 2 players) K:heart: Q:club: 8:heart:
      Hero bets $1.80, BB raises to $8.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.10

      Turn: ($20.30, 2 players) 5:heart:

      River: ($20.30, 2 players) 3:club:

      Hero shows A:spade: A:club: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 78%, Flop 52%, Turn 0%)
      BB shows T:heart: J:heart: (Flush, King High) (Pre 22%, Flop 48%, Turn 100%)
      BB wins $19.39


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      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A:diamond: K:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $1.10, fold, Hero calls $0.80

      Flop: ($2.30, 2 players) 7:diamond: Q:club: 9:diamond:
      SB bets $1.60, Hero raises to $4.00, SB raises to $8.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.90

      Turn: ($20.10, 2 players) 9:heart:

      River: ($20.10, 2 players) Q:heart:

      SB shows Q:spade: A:heart: (Full House, Queens full of Nines) (Pre 25%, Flop 54%, Turn 75%)
      Hero shows A:diamond: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Queens and Nines) (Pre 75%, Flop 46%, Turn 25%)
      SB wins $19.20
    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      Originally posted by c0wking
      I've had nothing but bad beats ever since moving to stars.

      Something like 20k hands and counting. Just now I lost three stacks in zoom NL10 in about 10 minutes. It's called jokerstars for a reason. Lost all faíth in eventually moving up limits, it's just never-ending rake slave grind at NL10 for all eternity.



      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Q:club: Q:spade:

      fold, fold, CO raises to $0.30, fold, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.40, fold, SB calls $1.10

      Flop: ($3.10, 2 players) 3:spade: T:diamond: 9:spade:
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.20, SB calls $2.20

      Turn: ($7.50, 2 players) 7:diamond:
      SB checks, Hero bets $4.00, SB raises to $9.37 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.37

      River: ($26.24, 2 players) 2:diamond:

      SB shows 9:diamond: J:diamond: (Flush, Jack High) (Pre 19%, Flop 23%, Turn 39%)
      Hero shows Q:club: Q:spade: (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 81%, Flop 77%, Turn 61%)
      SB wins $25.06


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      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A:spade: A:club:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.10, BB calls $1.00, fold

      Flop: ($2.50, 2 players) K:heart: Q:club: 8:heart:
      Hero bets $1.80, BB raises to $8.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.10

      Turn: ($20.30, 2 players) 5:heart:

      River: ($20.30, 2 players) 3:club:

      Hero shows A:spade: A:club: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 78%, Flop 52%, Turn 0%)
      BB shows T:heart: J:heart: (Flush, King High) (Pre 22%, Flop 48%, Turn 100%)
      BB wins $19.39


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      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A:diamond: K:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $1.10, fold, Hero calls $0.80

      Flop: ($2.30, 2 players) 7:diamond: Q:club: 9:diamond:
      SB bets $1.60, Hero raises to $4.00, SB raises to $8.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.90

      Turn: ($20.10, 2 players) 9:heart:

      River: ($20.10, 2 players) Q:heart:

      SB shows Q:spade: A:heart: (Full House, Queens full of Nines) (Pre 25%, Flop 54%, Turn 75%)
      Hero shows A:diamond: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Queens and Nines) (Pre 75%, Flop 46%, Turn 25%)
      SB wins $19.20
      You're 46% chance to win in the last hand. Bad beat? 2nd hand is abit of a cooler but don't tell me you've never flopped a monster draw in your life?

      It sucks to lose flips, but it is normal at any site. You expect to win flips 3-4 in a row at another site?
    • TinoLaan
      TinoLaan
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      Joined: 12.10.2011 Posts: 6,411
      Those are all flips or 60/40s when you get the money in. I would hardly call any of those bad beats. Unlucky perhaps, but not bad beats.
    • luizsilveira
      luizsilveira
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      Joined: 27.11.2010 Posts: 2,320
      c0wking, there is not a single bad beat there. That's just poker, and you lost.

      I'll be blunt to try to get the right message across: thinking this or that room is "rigged" is the stupidest thing you can do to your poker game. And it's hysterical to think a site like Pokerstars would "rig" a stake as "high" as NL10.

      You can play for fun and laugh at these things and gamble a bit of coffee money (which NL10 is in the end), or you can suck it up and learn the game. Whining about the site won't help you to have fun nor to learn.
    • TinoLaan
      TinoLaan
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      Joined: 12.10.2011 Posts: 6,411
      Originally posted by luizsilveira
      c0wking, there is not a single bad beat there. That's just poker, and you lost.

      I'll be blunt to try to get the right message across: thinking this or that room is "rigged" is the stupidest thing you can do to your poker game. And it's hysterical to think a site like Pokerstars would "rig" a stake as "high" as NL10.

      You can play for fun and laugh at these things and gamble a bit of coffee money (which NL10 is in the end), or you can suck it up and learn the game. Whining about the site won't help you to have fun nor to learn.
      +1 :)
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
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      Joined: 27.09.2009 Posts: 21,926
      Originally posted by TinoLaan
      Originally posted by luizsilveira
      c0wking, there is not a single bad beat there. That's just poker, and you lost.

      I'll be blunt to try to get the right message across: thinking this or that room is "rigged" is the stupidest thing you can do to your poker game. And it's hysterical to think a site like Pokerstars would "rig" a stake as "high" as NL10.

      You can play for fun and laugh at these things and gamble a bit of coffee money (which NL10 is in the end), or you can suck it up and learn the game. Whining about the site won't help you to have fun nor to learn.
      +1 :)
      +1 more :)