[NL2-NL10] NL5 FR 99 turn spot - vs small turn cbet

    • Dawidas888
      Joined: 22.06.2009 Posts: 826
      Known Players:
      UTG2: €6.89 - 138 bb
      UTG3: €4.94 - 99 bb
      MP1: €5.50 - 110 bb
      MP2: €4.83 - 97 bb
      MP3: €5.90 - 118 bb
      CO: €5.00 - 100 bb
      BU: €5.00 - 100 bb
      SB: €5.22 - 104 bb
      BB: €4.00 - 80 bb

      0.02/0.05 No Limit Hold'em (9 Handed)
      Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 1.1.508.2

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9:heart: , 9:diamond:
      SB posts small blind (€0.02), BB posts big blind (€0.05), UTG2 raises for €0.15, UTG3 folds, Hero calls, 6 folds

      Flop: (€0.37 - 7.40 bb) A:heart: , 7:spade: , 5:club: (2 Players)
      UTG2 bets €0.20, Hero calls

      Turn: (€0.77 - 15.40 bb) 5:heart: (2 Players)
      UTG2 bets €0.35, Hero ???


      UTG2 was 25/17/2 over 135. Cbet - 100 (7).

      UTG2 was OR + cbetting a lot so the plan was to take it down on the turn.

      The bet looked like a PP going for thin value.
      I wonder if we have showdown value if we call?
      Could we turn our hand into a bluff and raise vs the above mentioned hands? I ruled out AJ+ as it's likely he would bet more with those hands.
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694

      Why do you need to take it down on the Turn? 99 has enough showdown value. I would call once and give up on future streets. If he checks I'm checking and hoping to get to showdown.

      The worse type of hands to call Flop with the intention of turning it into bluffs later on is pocket pairs. These hands have showdown value with their pair, and they have little equity to improve with only 2 outs to a set. I would much rather call a hand like K:sQ on the Flop than 99 if I wanted to bluff later on.

    • Dawidas888
      Joined: 22.06.2009 Posts: 826
      Hi mbml

      Well, I put his range more towards KK-TT than 99-22 as his bet seems more like a thin value bet than a bluff bet. It wouldn't really make sense for him to bet with a lower PP. I thought about taking it down as I don't think I'm often ahead.

      However, given the pot odds I think you are right that calling is better as it's enough (and quite likely) for me to end up vs a lower PP more than 25% of the times.

    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      well he doesn't only have PPs, he can have KQ/KJs/JTs/QJs/QTs/T9s which you are ahead of.
      And once again, if you think 99 needs to be turned into a bluff, then you shouldn't even call flop in the first place. just pick other better hands to float with