[NL20-NL50] [SH] NL50 QTs TP+FD facing turn raise

    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
      Gold
      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,317
      IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

      CO: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
      BTN: $50 (100 bb)
      SB: $17 (34 bb)
      Hero (BB): $61.89 (123.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q T
      CO folds, BTN raises to $1, SB folds, Hero calls $0.50

      Flop: ($2.25) 7 9 2 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $1.57, Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $3.43

      Turn: ($12.25) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $8.50, BTN raises to $18.87, Hero ???


      BTN



      postflop stats



      I assumed that this kind of player would go broke with twopairs/sets/combodraws on the flop, so his turn raising range will be mostly hands that are improved by the turn (his actions reflect his hand strength, calling = mediocre hand, raising = good hand).
      If I shove over his raise, with the money already in the middle I need 35% equity vs his calling range.

      Board: 9:heart: 7:heart: 2:spade:  T:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      BU     59.78%  59.78%   0.00% { TT+, J8s, T9s, T7s, 86s, KhJh, As9s, Ks9s, Qs9s, Js9s, Ah8h, Kh8h, 9s8s, As7s, Ks7s, Qs7s, Js7s, 8s7s, Ah6h, Kh6h, 7s6s, 7s5s, 6s5s, T9o }
      BB     40.22%  40.22%   0.00% { QhTh }

      What would you play after his turn raise? If you call, what would be your plan to specific rivers?
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      Hey D,

      I don't like the check/raise on the flop that much. You can very profitably check/call with overs and flushdraw. Ofc, c/r should also be +EV but calling is higher I'd say.

      As played on the flop, the turn can only be a bet/shove(call shove) you improved to TP, you have a redraw to the flush, he probably doesn't just flat all sets vs the raise so you can discount some really strong hands in his range because of the flop call.
    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
      Gold
      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,317
      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      I don't like the check/raise on the flop that much. You can very profitably check/call with overs and flushdraw. Ofc, c/r should also be +EV but calling is higher I'd say.
      So you'd chRaise rather with monsters + backdoor kind of hands (like X:sX), and ch/call with good draws? I dont really have hands like 5:h4 in my pre flatting range, so I guess all my flushdraws would be decent on this board...

      Another question, why do you think flop calling is higher EV in this spot than raising? Because you can gain more on future streets playing passive?
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,897
      JT is also a good enough hand to c/r, BD spades like you mentioned.. Against a button minraise you can also have a few hands like for example K8s, Q8s that don't have 2 overs, just one.. and lower kickers, more reverse implied odds on Q or K, etc.. Those are the less valuable hands I would tend to c/r..

      Depends a bit on your game plan as well.. If you c/r often you might be able to get value with your strong flushdraw against lower flushdraws and weak pairs that you actually are ahead of in equity.