# Very important question is 55% win profit in long run?

• Basic
Joined: 19.10.2012
I have 55% heads up win but I play 5\$ heads up sng's actually buy in is 5.30\$ every game I pay 30 cent fee, is it profitable if I win 55% of the time?
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• Bronze
Joined: 05.02.2012
• Bronze
Joined: 19.02.2011
should be 20\$ profit on 100 games if im not mistaken...
• Basic
Joined: 27.03.2012
"I have 55% heads up win but I play 5\$ heads up sng's actually buy in is 5.30\$ every game I pay 30 cent fee, is it profitable if I win 55% of the time?" - thirit2

Hello. Vuciitis, one of us is way off and it's probably me because it's late and I'm tired and prone to mistakes right now.

%55 win rate [ assuming 1 loss = (\$5.30) and 1 win = \$9.70 ]:

55 wins and 45 losses ...

55 Wins = \$533.50 ...

45 Losses = (\$238.50).

\$533.50 - \$238.50 = \$295.00 profit out after 100 matches, so it's like making about \$2.95 per HUSnG.

I think I may have screwed up the original inputs because I double and triple checked the math itself. Where am I going wrong in the procedure above?
• Silver
Joined: 24.03.2008
Originally posted by toholdem
"I have 55% heads up win but I play 5\$ heads up sng's actually buy in is 5.30\$ every game I pay 30 cent fee, is it profitable if I win 55% of the time?" - thirit2

Hello. Vuciitis, one of us is way off and it's probably me because it's late and I'm tired and prone to mistakes right now.

%55 win rate [ assuming 1 loss = (\$5.30) and 1 win = \$9.70 ]:

55 wins and 45 losses ...

55 Wins = \$533.50 ...

45 Losses = (\$238.50).

\$533.50 - \$238.50 = \$295.00 profit out after 100 matches, so it's like making about \$2.95 per HUSnG.

I think I may have screwed up the original inputs because I double and triple checked the math itself. Where am I going wrong in the procedure above?
1x win = \$10 (2x \$5) = \$4.70 profit < 2x .30c rake is not in prize pool.

100 games @ 55% = \$258.50 - \$238.50 = \$20 profit = \$0.20 per game = 3.77% ROI
• Basic
Joined: 20.05.2013
1) Winrate = 55%

EV = (0.55 * 4.7\$ ) + [0.45 * (-5.3\$)] = 2.585\$ - 2.385\$ = 0.2\$

This means you make 0.2\$ per SNG
• Basic
Joined: 20.05.2013
By the way, does anyone have any winrates/ROIs for different HU turbo stakes?

Thanks !
• Basic
Joined: 27.03.2012
Thanks jonnyjm, for that ROI calculation and illustrating my mistake too. I can't believe I missed something that easy; I should've seen right off the bat that 1 win equals \$4.70 instead of \$9.70.

unshpe - don't quote me on it because I just remember seeing it in passing, but I read of ROI's for HU turbos of around %3-%6. I can't remember which stakes they were for though, as I was looking for regular speed winrates at the time.
• Bronze
Joined: 27.08.2010
HUSNG is the same as DONs in terms of winrate. You either win or you lose.

Here's a link to a DoN ROI chart which works just as well for HUSNGs - you work out your ROI based on winrate and rake percentage.

6% rake, which is what 30 cents is, would give you 3.8% ROI with a 55% winrate.